Typecast #8: Hey Man, Can I Get A Dime Bag Of Scooby?

Welcome back, folks!
I’ve got a good one for you, the Lady I’ve got this time around is one of the original people I’d hoped to get when I decided to launch the whole Typecast idea, I finally worked up the courage to ask Her to do one.
From ScoobyAddicts.com, the owner and designer of the site Herself, @ScoobyAddict!

We talked about her history with the characters, her site, and the future of the franchise.
Strap in because we both like to talk!

This conversation is presented just as it was had, simply to maintain honesty.

Her name, @ScoobyAddict, appears in red and links to her Twitter account.
Away we go!

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ThatScoobyDoom: What’s you’re earliest Scooby memory?
And can you tell me how far back you go with the character/franchise?

@ScoobyAddict: Wow!
My earliest Scooby memory…I remember watching Saturday morning cartoons with my brother.
I grew up in a time when cartoons were only on Saturday mornings and we played outside all the time.
I remember watching Scooby and falling in love with him as a kid!
The thought of a talking dog just amazed then!
My parents knew how much I loved Scooby and every time they went to Atlantic City, they would stop at the Warner Bros. store and bring me something back…stuffed Scooby’s, glasses, shirts, VHS tapes…anything they could find that was Scooby related!!

I was watching Scooby Saturday mornings in the early 80’s.
I always wished there was a 24 hour Scooby channel when I was a kid!!

ThatScoobyDoom: Saturday Morning Cartoons?
Things sure have changed, huh?

The talking dog aspect was what helped hook me in too.
Before Scooby, I really didn’t care about mysteries or any of that type of stuff.

Did you ever go to one of those WB Stores?

Do you remember what your first series was?

@ScoobyAddict: Things have changed a lot!
I don’t even have cable anymore…just Hulu Plus and Netflix and an extensive collection of Scooby DVD’s!!
I can’t remember what my first series was, I just remember watching a lot of Scooby!
I looked forward to Saturday mornings because of Scooby!

Mysteries weren’t really my thing when I was younger, though my friends and I were convinced Bigfoot lived in the woods next to our house.
Thanks to Scooby and the gang, we had to courage to try to find him.
We didn’t have any luck, but we did find some big footprints…or maybe they were bootprints!

I did go to the WB store in Atlantic City.
I had never seen so much Scooby stuff all in one place.
It was like heaven!!
I spent a few hundred dollars on Scooby merchandise and decided that I could never go to the store again!

ThatScoobyDoom: Me being as old school as I am, the Netflix and Hulu part hurts my soul…MY SOUL IS HURT!
*rolls single tear*

Awww, that’s cool.
Some would say looking for Bigfoot sounds crazy…but since one year my brother and I tried digging to China in our Grandma’s backyard and only got down about a foot before we got bored…and yelled at I understand.

Lol!
I know what you mean, I never went to a WB Store (that I can remember at least) but do you remember QVC doing the Warner Brothers Shows back in the 90’s/early 2000’s?
I got a shit ton of Scooby stuff off of there.
Would you agree that ’98-’04 was the last great time for Scooby merch?

@ScoobyAddict: Haha!
Ideally, I would love to have cable.
I miss Cartoon Network and Boomerang!
But $90 a month just wasn’t worth it for the amount of time we actually watched TV.

Digging to China…I never tried that as a kid.
My dad would have been fuming if we dug up the yard! lol

I don’t remember Scooby on QVC…I think I missed out!!

There definitely is not a whole lot of Scooby merchandise, at least not in stores and readily available, like there was back then.
Although, you can find pretty much anything on the internet!
When the WB Stores were open, they had more Scooby merchandise, even in other stores like Toys R Us.
I am happy to see new merchandise coming out though, like the Scooby LEGO sets!
I am really looking forward to them in August!
I thought there would be an official Scooby Yahtzee by now.
They make almost everything else in Yahtzee form, so why not Scooby?
I even went as far as to have a woodturner make me custom wooden Scooby dice so I could have my own Scooby Yahtzee set!

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh I totally understand, they don’t make it easy at all to stick with the traditional methods.
The cable companys threw a hissy because WWE launched an online network and has their PPV’s and everything else available for a 6th of what you could just get the PPV’s for on cable.
Strange that it took this long for all of these companies to cut out the middle men.

Oh, trust me, Granny was pissed for sure!

Oh, you totally missed out!
It was basically the WB Store on TV, they’d sometimes interview people involved with the shows and stuff.
It was awesome, a Warner fans dream.
I think on rare occasions they still do stuff like that for really big movies and stuff, I know a few years back I saw a comic book themed show on QVC or HSN and I believe the had some creators call in.

Target used to be the main spot I found Scooby stuff, I remember seeing those villain figures there and drooling over ’em.
Never got the damn things.

Those Lego sets have me so excited because they open up a whole new world of possibilities.
I’m starting to sound like a broken record with this, but with as hot as Lego is, and continues to be, we have a real shot at getting a Lego Scooby-Doo game!
The first Scooby game in almost 5 years!
Given the humor of those games, they could without a doubt have a whole lot of fun with Scoob.
I can’t wait to see the trailer for that special!

@ScoobyAddict: I’m surprised the internet didn’t ruin cable sooner!
I do hope Be Cool Scooby-Doo! Will be available on the internet, because without cable I won’t be able to watch it!!

I always thought QVC was more for clothes and kitchen items, I guess I never thought of them selling Scooby stuff.
I would have gone broke had I known!
I never see anything at Target other than movies.
I look for Scooby stuff every time I go to any store, and I never seem to find anything lol.

The LEGO sets could potentially open the doors to a lot of other Scooby merchandise!
Wouldn’t it be great if Scooby merchandise was everywhere?
A LEGO Scooby game would be amazing…and I would want to play it all the time and never get any work done lol!
Maybe there will be a LEGO Scooby movie!
Who knows…maybe Hasbro will make that Scooby Yahtzee game now!!

ThatScoobyDoom: I hear ya, I’m gonna miss it too.

That’s basically all it is now, Jewelry, Kitchen stuff, and some Tech stuff.

Yeah, Target doesn’t have anything anymore.
Internet, Toys R Us, and Barnes & Noble are your only hopes for new stuff these days.

Yes, I miss those days.
It would be awesome if the 22 Minutes special lead to a movie!
Did you get the Scooby Monopoly?
Do you have a picture of those custom dice you had made?

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Do you have a favorite piece of official merchandise?

@ScoobyAddict: I do have Scooby Monopoly!
I think all money should be printed with the Scooby characters on it! lol
I also have a Scooby-Doo Where Are You board game from 1973, Scooby-Doo! Haunted House 3D Board Game, Scooby-Doo! Thrills and SpillsGame, Scooby-Doo! DVD Board Game, Scooby-Doo! Get That Dog Game, Scooby-Doo! Trivia Game, Scooby-Doo! Mystery Mansion Game, Scooby-Doo! Snakes and Ladders and the Hold on Scooby-Doo! Game.

I have attached a picture of the Scooby dice.
I really like them.
The guy that made them said in the 30+ years he has been doing woodworking, he has NEVER made dice…let alone Scooby dice!

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It’s hard for me to pick 1 item that would be my favorite!
I have so much Scooby stuff, unfortunately, most of it is in storage because I don’t have the room to displayed it all.
I used to have a Scooby stapler that I got at the WB store.
That was a favorite!
Something in my current collection that is a favorite is my Scooby karate t-shirt.
I love that shirt!

ThatScoobyDoom: Scooby money would not be a great idea, how would you ever pay for anything?
I’d be Scrooge McDuck’in the Scooby money.
I think I have quite a few of those, I really wish I would’ve gotten that DVD game though.

Those are great!
Looks like you chose classic designs too.
Now I want a set!!!

When I think of my favorite pieces of Merch 2 things come to mind.
1 is the Where Are You! Complete Series Set with the actual Mystery Machine.
The other is sort of a cheat, the James Gelsey Scooby-Doo Mysteries Books.
Specifically, Scooby-Doo and the Howling Wolfman.
Not only was that book the first piece of Scooby merch I ever got, it was actually my introduction to the characters!
So it holds a very special place in my heart.

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@ScoobyAddict: Yeah, I guess Scooby money isn’t as great of an idea! lol

I wanted to go more classic with the dice.
Classic Scooby is my favorite!

I also really like the Where Are You Complete Set with the Mystery Machine!
I still haven’t opened mine!
The James Gelsey Scooby-Doo Mysteries Books look cool!
I had to look them up on Google to see what you were referring to.
I never had any of those books, but now I want them all!

ThatScoobyDoom: Would I be right in guessing that Where Are You is your favorite series?

I’ve been watching mine sort of in preparation for this Typecast (I never got that Season 1 & 2 set cause $60 at Target just wasn’y worth it for 26 eps).

Really???
You never read the Gelsey Books?
Those were so important to me, still are, I even got Scooby-Doo’s High-Flying Adventure which I’m not sure was ever released.
I got it from a Scholastic Book order form that I…technically…wasn’t supposed to have…per se…but thank god I had a lazy teacher that just let me dive into the stack of forms she had. Lol

@ScoobyAddict: Yes, Where Are You is definitely my favorite series!
There is nothing like those original episodes!
They focused on solving mysteries and there really was no “drama” to deal with.

I have never read the Gelsey books, it is true.
I always tried to persuade my kids to pick Scooby books for their free book day at school or from the book fairs.
My youngest son picked one Scooby book one year and said he got it because I love Scooby.
I don’t think my kids appreciate Scooby like I do! lol

ThatScoobyDoom: They focused on the mysteries…and they 100% had the best villains.
Nothing beats Space Kook, The Creeper, and The Headless Specter (The Haunted House Hang-Up might be my favorite episode of WAY).
Plus, those chase songs from Season 2 are just perfect, they remind me so much of childhood.

But, all that being said, SD:MI gave me everything I ever wanted from a Scooby series.

Those books are rather simplistic, but you can tell Gelsey was a HUGE fan of WAY.
His love for it just oozes out of the page.

I wanted to ask you about that, I’ve been reading your board for years and you’ve mentioned your kids and I have always wanted to know if you’ve shared your Scooby love and if they’ve latched onto it.

@ScoobyAddict: Definitely the best villains in SDWAY!
SD:MI was interesting.
I liked the series, but I felt like the drama between the gang members got to be a bit much.
I wasn’t thrilled with the Velma/Shaggy relationship and I liked it so much better when they just hinted toward Fred and Daphne liking each other and they didn’t make it such a part of the series in the past.

I am going to look for the books!

As for my kids, I think they like Scooby more than they let on!
For Scooby’s 40th birthday, I made a cake in the shape of Scooby’s head and I wore my Scooby costume and we celebrated.
The kids thought it was cool.
They never want to watch Scooby with me though.
I usually get complaints from them when I turn it on.
If it’s a new movie, they are more willing to watch it with me, especially if there is popcorn!
My youngest son does like to read Scooby books with me before he goes to bed.
When they see anything Scooby in the store, they point it out to me.
I tried to get them to be more interested in Scooby, but I guess it worked out for the best…at least they aren’t stealing my Scooby stuff and playing with it!

ThatScoobyDoom: 100% agreed, those first 20 episodes with the relationship crap just made me want to throttle Velma.
I am so glad they dropped that in season 2.
The Fred Daphne relationship didn’t bother me as much because things are awkward at that age, and given all the craziness he was dealing with it’s not surprising he is…a little strange.
Mayor Dad just didn’t seem to be interested in being a good father, Fred turned out accordingly.

I give SD:MI the edge solely because it told that badass over-arcing story.
That was something that I’ve been wanting for years, a true sense of continuity (beyond some of the stuff that was in the comics that was only mentioned when convenient or they brought characters back) that built to a satisfying end.
That is true art, that show (especially it’s ending) was ballsy as hell and I hafta respect that.

Yeah, if they’re still rather young that would be a nightmare if they got ahold of some of that merch.

@ScoobyAddict: I liked the continuity in SD:MI too!
Having each episode lead into the next made the characters seem a little more human.
They filled in a lot of gaps in the personal stories of the characters too.
I always felt bad for Fred.
The Mayor never gave him a chance!
I did want to see Scooby-Dum make an appearance!

My youngest son is 8, so he’s no longer at that age that he messes with my Scooby stuff.
When the Scooby LEGO sets come out in August, I know my kids will find a new appreciation for Scooby and they will want to help me put the sets together.

ThatScoobyDoom: It did, it invested you more in the characters and made you want to see what happened next.
I love the vast majority of the other series (Get A Clue is something only it’s mother could love…and since it doesn’t have a mother it doesn’t even have that going for it) but you could never say that before.
For the first time you had a reason to watch next week beyond loving the characters and it was exciting.

I always wished they would have done a little something more with Scrappy.
Poor kid gets such a bad wrap.

Have you decided which of those sets you’re gonna invest in yet?

@ScoobyAddict: Get A Clue was terrible!
I watched the show, not every show, but a few of them and I tried to give it a chance, but everything about it annoyed me!
I hate to think that there are kids out there who’s first introduction to Scooby was Get A Clue!

I am happy that Scrappy wasn’t in SD:MI.
I am not a fan of Scrappy!!

Which LEGO sets will I get?
All of them, of course!
Hey, I have 6 months to save up the money for them! lol

ThatScoobyDoom: And lets just get it all out there on the table, Scott Menville is beyond talented!
He is a great voice actor…but his Shaggy SSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUCCCCKKKED!!!
Just down right horrible.
Everything about that show was shit, the Style/Models, the writing, the stories, that bloody horrid theme song!!!

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For real?
Why?
Where’s the love for the half pint punk pup?

I’ll be lucky to even get the special.

@ScoobyAddict: Scott Menville is very talented!
He’s worked on some great projects, but I don’t think Get A Clue was a good project for him (or anyone else, it never should have been made!) I think he could do a better Shaggy if he had a better show to work on.
I can’t find anything that I like about the show at all, except that it ended!

Scrappy is annoying, and like all other shows at the time, they brought Scrappy in to liven it up.
He got on my nerves!
I think you either love him or hate him…there is no in between where Scrappy is concerned.

ThatScoobyDoom: I don’t know that it shouldn’t have been made for a few reasons.
1. If it hadn’t been made we might not appreciate SD:MI as much.
2. Even if it sucks, it’s never a bad idea to try new things.
3. After What’s New, we needed a reminder that not every series is great because from 97 forward we were spoiled with awesome Scooby (some DTV’s aside).
That was an almost 10 year ride.

Maybe he could have, but I’m more than happy to stick with Matt for as long as he wants it.

I sorta fall in the middle, he was annoying at times but he wasn’t intolerable.
And you say he was brought in to liven it up, but he saved the franchise.
Without Scrappy we might not be having this conversation.
He is the Jar Jar of the franchise though, he probably had far too much focus far too soon.

@ScoobyAddict: I agree with your reasons, especially that trying new things is not a bad idea.
However, I still feel like the people that never saw anything Scooby before Get a Clue, and that was the first series they ever saw, really missed out!
I know of people that dislike Scooby because of Get a Clue.
Just like I know of people that loved Get a Clue and they compare all other incarnations of Scooby to Get a Clue and they feel like the other series aren’t as good.
Perhaps WB and CN should start doing focus groups where they test the shows on us fans.
Get a group of Scooby fans together, show them the ideas they have come up with or the clips from the show, and see what the fans say.

I have said this before…Matthew Lillard was born to play Shaggy!
There is no one they could have possibly cast in the live action movies that could have done better than him!
He was the perfect Shaggy!
I was happy to see him take over for Casey Kasem.
If anyone else had to do Shaggy’s voice, Matthew Lillard was the best choice!

I haven’t met many people that feel like you do where Scrappy is concerned.
Most either love him or hate him! lol
I had a really old Scooby website before I started ScoobyAddicts.com, and I used to have an anti-Scrappy page.
I got so many emails from people who felt the same way and very few from people that liked him.
But when I started ScoobyAddicts, I felt that I wanted the site to be more about Scooby and the gang and all information Scooby and not about my opinion on the series and characters.

ThatScoobyDoom: I don’t disagree, I’m just glad it did happen.
I appreciate the good so much more because I know how bad it did and can get.
Now, with that said, and this is almost embaressing given how much I hate that series, I wish WB would release that entire series on DVD just for collections sake.

I would love to be on a Scooby focus group, but that would take them actually putting some care into the franchise.
And don’t get me wrong, I think the people who create the stories love and care, but as a whole they just don’t seem to.
Look how many times they repackage and rerelease the same damn episodes over and over and over and over again.
There are still episodes that have never been released, it’s nuts!

I really have nothing to add.
Scott Innes’ Shaggy was good without a doubt, but Matt’s?
He’s GREAT!!!

Don’t get me wrong, at times Scrappy is annoying as hell, but for the most part I can tolorate him.
13 Ghosts is a perfect example, how can anybody hate on Scrappy when you have Vincent Van Ghoul (he is no longer Vincent Price to me, lol) in the show for godsake?!
That’s amongst my favorite series for sure.
Plus, knowing what we know about the history of the franchise, I think it’s cool that Scrappy is exactly what Too Much was going/meant to be on Mystery’s 5.

Lets get into the history of the site (I’ve now learned sites) a bit, you’ve mentioned on your board (http://www.scoobyaddicts.proboards.com/) a few times that you do or understand web design.
When did you build your first website and when did you build your first Scooby site?

@ScoobyAddict: Some of the episodes may never get released due to copyright issues.
I think that is more of an issue with The New Scooby-Doo movies episodes.
I agree that they keep re-releasing episodes in different sets, and I would love to have them release things that haven’t been on any DVD yet.
When they do release Get a Clue, I will buy it only because I don’t want my collection to be incomplete!

Scott was a good Shaggy, and I have met Scott Innes.
He is a great guy!
I got to go to one of his Christmas parties he does in Louisiana.
It was a lot of fun!

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Here is a link to the pictures I took while I was there: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.320299924687429.98461.100001222734950&type=1&l=300a6e3287
Here is a video I took of Scott singing “You’ve Got a Friend in Me” as Shaggy and Scooby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkiC0bvcvuM.
We drove 24 hours straight through to get to that party, but it was totally worth it!

Years ago, I taught myself HTML so I could create a Scooby website.
My first website was called PantherGR’s Scooby-Doo Website.
It was just a basic site, nothing special.
I used a lot of the wallpaper like backgrounds and I listed information, so the pages were really long.
The episode guide was a bullet list.
I look at some Scooby sites now, and it’s funny because a lot of people that have really old sites had actually used my first site as the basis for their site, so their site was almost a copy of my pages.
That, and the experience I have gained over the years with the webdesign business I co-own with my husband – Aqua Monkey Designs – allowed me to come up with a better website with more features.
On February 1, 2007, ScoobyAddicts.com went live.
I have added a lot of information over the years.
I still have so much to add!
It isn’t a complete site at this point, but I have a lot of things in the works right now that I want to add to the site.
The next big addition will be Scooby video games.
The code for those pages is almost done, then it’s just a matter of entering in all the games.
It’s very time consuming to work on the site, but I love it!
I still see people stealing ideas from my website or trying to copy what I have done.

I actually have another Scooby project in the works, that I hope will be launched by this summer.
It’s going to be tons of work, but it will be a great way to truly bring Scooby fans together.

ThatScoobyDoom: I have a hope that one day they will go series by series and release it all, we have Where Are You already so they can stop repackaging it and just reissue the quality sets.
Ross (SpiderScooby) and I were talking about Scooby Movies not to long ago and he made a great point, WB settled alot of rights issues for Batman 66 so there is hope.
Now Batman and Scooby are totally different, but a precedent has been set.

I know he’s from Poplar Bluff Missouri, I always wanted to mee him or even interview him because I know that whether he has the job or not he is a huge fan.
So he has to have great stories and experiances of growing up as a fan and then getting to be an integral part of the franchise for over 10 years (if you count video games).

Oooo, I can’t wait to watch that!
It always amazes me when voice actors can sing in character, because trust me it is hard!
The Alien Invaders soundtrack is a gem!
I don’t doubt it was worth it.
I wish he was more active on twitter.

You have a great resource there, of course folks would want to copy it.
Hell, I’ve made suggestions to SpiderScooby for his site before and he has told me far more than I’d care to admit “Um, ScoobyAddict has that.” and my first reaction is always anger, but then I always have to tip my hat.
You’ve done so much and done such a great job at it that you’ve made it hard for others to come along and break new ground.
And folks will also copy you because your site has gotten alot of attention over the years.
It must be hugely flattering.

Really?
That site has only been running for just over 8 years?
That’s extremely hard to believe, but then that was about the time I really started traveling the web heavily.
I know I told you this on twitter last year, but it’s hard to imagine what it was like before I found your site.
It truly was a dark time where I just happened to stumble upon stuff just by pure dumb luck.
Your site, and then when ScoobyFan.net came along, really changed and helped alot.

Sounds great!

@ScoobyAddicts: It would be great to have them release every series as complete series sets.
I wonder if they will ever do that?
I would imagine WB could do whatever it took to manage any copyright issues so they can release episodes.
Maybe they just don’t see it as being marketable?
I know a lot of people that would buy the DVDs!

Scott is a HUGE Scooby fan!
I think that is what makes him such a great voice artist, he loves the characters he plays and he puts his heart into it.
Within minutes of meeting him, he talked to us in the voices of Scooby and Shaggy.
He really is great!
Very down to earth and he is so eager to help people and make their lives better!
I really admire that about him!

Ross is great!
I like reading his posts, and he has been such an amazing help on the ScoobyAddicts forum as an admin.
He’s got a great resource and he should add whatever he wants to add to his site!
I know he will present any information he adds differently than I do, he will give it his own spin and not copy everything word for word.

I don’t know how flattering it is when people copy my site lol.
It’s great that people like ScoobyAddicts, and I have created it as a resource for Scooby fans.
I think if you want to create your own Scooby site, you should put your on spin on it.
It doesn’t make sense to copy another site and put your name on it!
I had someone a few years ago email me and ask me to look at the Scooby site they just created.
When I clicked on the link, their site was a complete copy of my site…word for word, picture for picture…it was ScoobyAddicts with a different name.
I couldn’t believe this person would copy my site and then ask me for my opinion on it.
I was very honest with them when I responded to them.
I expressed just how pissed off I was and they ended up taking the site down.
I wish people would think about the countless hours I have put into my website before they steal everything from me.
We don’t use templates for our business, everything we design is coded from scratch, and ScoobyAddicts is no different.
I created that site from the ground up, and someday I hope to add everything Scooby I can to the site.
It takes a lot of time to create a website and keep it updated.
I don’t get paid to do anything to ScoobyAddicts, I just do it for fun and because I love Scooby!

It does make me happy to get feedback on my site, whether it is positive or negative.
I created my first Scooby site because I really needed something to keep my mind occupied and off of some things I was going through at the time.
To hear that ScoobyAddicts has helped someone else is awesome!

ThatScoobyDoom: My guess would be someday the demand will be high enough that they’ll do it, but I don’t see it coming anytime soon.

He is one of the people that, while I just said I’d love to meet or interview him, I think I’d be so nervous around him that it wouldn’t be worth it.
I think the first animated Scooby I ever saw was Witches Ghost, so he was my first Shaggy and Scooby.
I mimicked that dude for years!
But I am glad to hear he’s welcoming.

I just put up a post here on my site about Ross, he’s been a great friend to me.
I love his site, and not just because he gave me a place to put my Scooby thoughts down on wax so to speak.

Whoa, I didn’t know you meant copy as in “copy and paste”.
That is scummy as hell.
Some people have the mentality that once it goes out on the internet they are free to do with it what they please without giving a single shred of credit to the original creator or artist or whatever, those people are chunks of shit.
I’ve run across it myself.

But I meant more along the lines of, if somebody takes every single idea that you have used and it’s obvious that you gave them the ideas BUT they put their own spin on it?
That must be flattering.

Trust me, there have been times when I was rather depressed and certain things weren’t there for me to find comfort in, but I’ve turned to your site and just started digging through the pages you have there and it’s helped.
And now knowing that you’ve built it from the ground up, out of nothing, it’s even more impressive.
So you should be very proud.

@ScoobyAddict: I do hope they release everything in time.

I was nervous when I met him, but as soon as he broke out into the Scooby and Shaggy voices, the nervousness just faded away.

Yes, copy and paste…I don’t own the rights to anything Scooby, but the layout and design of my site was all me.
I try to use pictures on the site that I collected myself, and another one of the admin’s on my forum, doo, has allowed me to use pictures that he posted on the forum.
I did take the History from Wikipedia, which I gave them credit on the bottom of that page, and then another admin on the forum, j3h, wrote up the info on SD:MI.
I really do try to give credit where credit is due.
I am slowly working on redesigning the website as well.
I want to give it a new look and present the information a little differently.
It is flattering when someone creates a website because they are inspired by my site, and I will gladly post links to people’s sites on my links page as long as they didn’t copy my site.

I am proud of the work I’ve done on my site.
Like I said, it’s helped me get through some tough times and even now if I am going through something, I work on the site.
It helps me escape and be creative.
I really am happy to heat that my site and Ross’s site has helped you too!

ThatScoobyDoom: Totally understandable.
I did always take notice that you were good about giving credit, mad respect for that because I’ve come across some that don’t.

Talking about Scott reminded me that you’ve gotten the chance to inteview him and some other big names, specifically Ruby & Spears and the Legendary Frank Welker, can you tell me when those interviews were done and how they came about?

@ScoobyAddict: Thank you!!

All of the interviews I have done were all done through email.
Unfortunately, I didn’t get a chance to do any of them face-to-face.
Doreen Mulman, who ran Frank Welker’s website, set up the interview with Frank, which was done on May 5, 2007.
Sadly, Doreen passed away on March 14, 2014.
The Ruby/Spears interview was done on February 22, 2007 and was set up with the webmaster of their website.
I did the interview with Scott Innes on March 3, 2008.

I wanted something that set me apart from other Scooby sites.
I also was very interested in getting feedback from the people that have worked on Scooby in some way.
I have another interview in the works.
I am not very good at interviewing people though!
I have so many questions I want to ask people, but I usually have to limit what I ask, and then I always feel like I ask stupid questions.
I try to research the people as much as possible before I send them the questions so I can try to ask them the best questions possible.

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s the thing that’s hard about doing interviews by email where you only have only a set number of questions, it doesn’t matter who’s doing the interview they tend to come off stiff or disjointed.
I’ve seen interviews on so called “real news” sites that are really hard to read because of it.
Specifically take a look at that interview with Frank, there are many oppritunities for great follow up questions…but that dude is insanely busy!
You were lucky he was able to get time enough to answer those, so don’t be so hard on yourself it’s rather unavoidable.
Doreen did great work on that site, I loved reading the Q&A section.
May she Rest In Peace.

I loved the Ruby-Spears interview, especially the part where you asked about Get A Clue.
That answer was hilarious!

I’ve tried setting up interview with a few voice actors, one for Ross’s site and one for another, but nothing ever came of them.
It’s hard to get those folks because they’re always busy.
I tried getting Grey Delisle (now Griffin) like 2 years ago, she said yes but told me she was going to have do it in the summer.
She never got back to me and I understand, I see how much she works and how often she’s at cons.
I’m surprised she’s still able to have a coherant thought much less keep working.

I won’t press for more (even though I want too! Lol) so, besides the interview you have coming up, who’s still around that you’d love to talk too?

@ScoobyAddict: It is really difficult to do email interviews because there are so many questions I want to ask after they answer my questions, but I know they are so busy and I don’t want to annoy them, so I just thank them and leave it at that.
I can’t tell you how much I truly appreciate them taking time out to answer my questions.
The Ruby/Spears interview was probably the most amazing as I never thought they would even respond to my questions.
When they did, it was mind blowing!
I loved their response about Get a Clue as well.
I was really interested to see how they felt about Scooby going in that direction.

I asked Grey DeLisle Griffin for an interview years ago, but I never heard back from her.
I know she’s really busy, so I totally understood her not getting back to me.
I had some other people say they would do my interviews, but then they never responded to the questions, so maybe someday, I’ll try to contact them again.

I’d like to interview Jon Colton Barry and Zac Moncrief about Be Cool Scooby-Doo!
I haven’t contacted them yet because Jon is on the forum and there isn’t much information he can give at this point.
So I thought after the show starts, I’ll try them.
I’d also like to interview Mitch Watson.
It would be great to interview Heather North and Nicole Jaffe.
I tried to interview Casey Kasem.
I mailed him my questions along with a picture I wanted him to sign.
I got back the picture, which was signed by him and his wife, another picture of him that was signed and the interview question sheet with no answers filled in.

ThatScoobyDoom: I can understand why, they created the whole thing!
That was quite a get.

They will be another good get, just because they’re working and building onto the legacy.
I wanted to talk to Tony Cervone when SD:MI was going since he’s pretty active on twitter and he’s done quite a bit, directed a few of the DTV’s and those Insurance commercials, but I never pursued it.
Alot of potential out there for sure.

Lets go back to Pup and work our way forward, did you watch that series when it originally aired?

@ScoobyAddict: I knew I was forgetting someone…Tony Cervone would be a great person to interview, but I always felt like he was so good about posting things and answering questions that I never wanted to bother him with an interview.

I did watch a Pup Named Scooby-Doo when it aired.
The show was ok.
It was hard for me to handle because it was so far from the classic Scooby and such a different style of animation.
I didn’t like the dance sequences during the chase scenes, I always thought that was really odd to put into a mystery solving show.
Red Herring was kind of annoying, too.
However, it is the last seriesthat Don Messick voiced Scooby for.
What I did like about it was the villains were more amusing and it was kind of cute to see a show from the perspective of them being kids.

ThatScoobyDoom: See that was why I never pursued it, he’s always willing to respond it almost seemed unnecessary to bother him.

I love that series, in my top 5 favorite series And also the only series that Frank didn’t voice Fred in.
Yeah, those dance scenes always seemed like them trying to reinvent the wheel of the WAY Season 2 chase songs.
Plus I’m sure they saved money by slapping them in there since they were just plug in repeat animations for the most part.

Freddie annoyed me more than Red Herring in that show, but I will say that was probably the first time Fred had a real personality.
Before that he was simply “generic leader”.

@ScoobyAddict: Had Frank Welker voiced Fred in Pup, I think he might have been less annoying lol!
And you are right, he did have his own personality.

ThatScoobyDoom: While I liked it, it kinda sucks that Fred got stuck with the idiot personality though.
It started there and it’s still there today.
How do you feel about that?

How did you feel about the so called “babyfication” of classic cartoons at the time?

I liked Tom & Jerry Kids & Muppet Babies too.

@ScoobyAddict: I think Fred being the “idiot” was done because he was a jock type character, and they just wanted to stick him in that stereotype.
I don’t think he was an “idiot” so much in SD:MI.
I think his actions were based more on his lack of parental support.

I liked Muppet Babies… I don’t think there is any show or movie The Muppets did that I didn’t like!
But the baby phase got a little carried away!
They turned all of our favorite characters into babies!
I didn’t like Tom & Jerry Kids, I didn’t even like when they talked in the normal version.
I wasn’t very fond of Baby Looney Tunes either.
I definitely liked the classic versions better.
Maybe it’s just because that is what I grew up with.

ThatScoobyDoom: He sorta slipped in and out of moron mode in What’s New, depended on the episode.
If they went to a different country you knew you were going to get brain damaged Freddie.
Agreed, for SD:MI I’d say he was more simple than simpleton.

I think I liked all that stuff because I grew up with it, Muppet Babies was my first exposure to those characters.
I’ve noticed alot of folks don’t seem to like Looney Tunes in any variation of a classic sitcom format, they seem to just like the short form skits and sketches.

@ScoobyAddict: I grew up with The Muppet Show.
I loved that show!
So when they made The Muppet Babies, not only were they babies, but they were animated.
That was a strange concept to deal with.
It’s kind of like Scooby…I prefer animated Scooby, most likely because that is what I knew for years and years.
When the live action movies came out, I actually didn’t watch them for a long time.
Then people on the forum told me they were pretty good, so I watched them.
I definitely prefer the first live action cast.
Matthew Lillard was the perfect Shaggy and Linda Cardellini was the perfect Velma.
They couldn’t have cast anyone better than them for those roles!
I didn’t like Freddie Prinze Jr. or Sarah Michelle Gellar as Fred and Daphne though.

ThatScoobyDoom: I’ve only seen a few episodes of The Muppet Show, I saw a few seasons of it for cheap a few years back but couldn’t get it.
That show was a true cultural phenomenon.

Wait, people on the forum?
Are you saying you waited at least 5 years before you watched the first Live-Action movie?
Don’t get me wrong animated Scooby is far superior to Live-Action, but 6 freakin’ years???

Fred and Daphne seem to be hard roles to cast, people didn’t seem to like Robbie and Kate either.
I actually thought Kate did a pretty great job as Daph, she played the slightly different version of her perfectly.

As I said before, I’ve been watching alot of Scooby lately and I’ve made it up to The Richie Rich Scooby-Doo Show.
I’ll give this to you and the Scrappy haters, these short episodes are trash.
Completely pointless, no mystery what so ever, Scrappy is beyond repetitive, annoying, and simply put this is pure shit almost as bad as Get A Clue.
Just a useless addition to the franchise.

@ScoobyAddict: Yes…I waited 5 years to watch the live action movie!
I was really scared of it.
I just didn’t think Scooby would translate very well to live action.
People on the forum convinced me to watch Scooby-Doo and Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed.
They were ok. Matthew and Linda were amazing, but they could have cast Fred and Daphne better.
When The Mystery Begins came out, I was really worried about the cast!
I wasn’t familiar with any of the actors, but Hayley Kiyoko as Velma seemed like not a very good match.
I did watch it soon after it was released, and I wasn’t impressed.
Nick Palatas did good as Shaggy and Kate Meton did good as Daphne.
I didn’t like Robbie Amell as Fred, and maybe it was the brown hair.
I asked him why he didn’t have blonde hair and he said he didn’t look good as a blonde.
I couldn’t accept that lol!
If he didn’t look good as a blonde, they should have recast Fred!
I didn’t like Hayley as Velma at all either.
I felt she just didn’t fit as Velma.
I also was unhappy that they came out with new live action movies without Matthew and Linda as Shaggy and Velma.
They were perfect for those roles, so why do another movie without them?

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The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show is hard to watch!
Scrappy is almost unbearable in these episodes with his constant talking and wanting to be the hero while Shaggy and Scooby are scared of everything.
They make it seem like there is a mystery, and you wait and wait and wait and then all they do is run away.
The lack of Fred, Daphne and Velma makes me miss the gang being together.

ThatScoobyDoom: I can understand being worried, but that is insane to me!
I saw both in theaters and was blown away.
Sure, there are some shitty parts…the fart scene for sure (see what I did there? ;-)) and the way the creatures were taught to talk was…bad!
But for me, that first movie is really enjoyable and the second one is even better.

You have to give it up to Freddie Prinze Jr though, he went the full 9 and did indeed dye his hard.
I like him and Sarah alot, but I agree they were miscast.
My theory is that they cast her solely because of Buffy, they knew even if Scooby fans saw a trailer and wrote it off they’d get her Buffy fans.
TV fans from the 90’s forward are rabid and will follow the stars anywhere.

As for the TV Movies, I have said this many many times, but The Mystery Begins made me a bit misty eyed…okay, I cried.
I love that movie!
It felt like the closest representation of the cartoon up to that point, Nick was awesome (not nearly as great as Matt but a decent replacement), Kate is great, and I liked Hayley alot.
She was closer to original Velma, I feel Linda is closer to Mindy’s Velma (which I love) because Mindy’s Velma has alot of attitude.
She’s sarcastic as hell.

You’ll notice I left Robbie off, he just felt really dull.
I saw an interview once with him where he said he offer to die his hair but producers/director/somebody said it was unnecessary, my reporters instincts just screamed bullshit.
It seemed very much like a line he was feed to save him from being hated for it.
When did you ask him about it?

Well, they wanted to go younger, it would have been creepy to have Matt and Linda running around with Teens especially after they established in the first 2 movies that they were clearly playing adults.

When you first heard the announcement for the first movie were you excited at all or were you just totally against the idea from the jump?
I know that Batman teaser had me pumped for it!

Yeah, it really was just a series of wheelspinning shorts.
I stopped after 2 episodes (about 8 shorts) and switched to 13 Ghosts.

@ScoobyAddict: LOL!
I did enjoy the original live action movies, for the most part.
They didn’t annoy me as much as I thought they could!
I do give kudos to FPJ for dying his hair and trying to look the part of Fred.

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I had a hard time with The Mystery Begins.
I liked Nick and Kate, but Robbie and Hayley…no way!
I used to follow Robbie Amell on Twitter, but he just seemed so arrogant and high on himself that I couldn’t take it anymore and I unfollowed him.
I think he ruined the movie for me.
My feelings of him being arrogant carried over to my perception of him in the movie and I just couldn’t like him as Fred.
The brown hair was unforgivable lol!
I asked him about it a few years ago.
He only responded that he didn’t look good as a blonde.

I can see why Matt and Linda wouldn’t have fit into The Mystery Begins.
They would have looked odd with Hayley and Robbie.

When I first heard about the movie, I was so against it.
I felt like they were just trying to ruin Scooby!
Scooby live action??
That was just unheard of!
Scooby was a cartoon!
For a few years now, we’ve been in nostalgia mode…releasing movies and shows and toys featuring characters that were popular when I was a kid.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Paddington Bear, He-Man…They are doing this in hopes that we will want to relive our childhoods with our kids and take them to see the movies or watch the shows with them. (It is working!!)
I felt like they were just releasing a live action movie for that reason…and I was worried they were going to ruin Scooby!
Instead of giving it a chance, I waited a few years to watch the movies.
I actually owned them on DVD for a year or so before I ever watched them.
I wasn’t as disappointed after seeing them.
I agree Monsters Unleashed was the better of the 2 movies.

ThatScoobyDoom: Where do you fall on the Real Vs Fake Monsters debate?
All 4 movies have deftly done both.

I can agree about Robbie, I’ve never met the dude, probably never even been in the same zipcode as the dude, but he just seems to give off a certain aura of…I don’t want to say superiority, but that’s kinda what it is.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on Hayley.

While we’re on the subject, what did you think of Curse Of The Lake Monster?

This is gonna sound familiar if you pay attention to the Question Of The Week’s on ScoobyFan.Net (but I wrote it so I can steal my own work if I want!!! Lol) If you were to pick a whole new cast for a Scooby movie, who would pick for the roles?
I know who I’d pick for Daphne but struggle with the rest.

I love the nostalgia movies and sequels and what not myself, but I find it very disheartening when you hear folks constantly bitching and crying about not having new, original, franchise free movies out but they don’t support the original movies that do get made.

I can understand you being worried about the movies being bad but seriously, how the hell did you resist watching them when you had the DVD’s for a year?
That would have driven me nuts in some twisted Tantalus kinda way!

@ScoobyAddict: I like the classic idea of the monsters being fake, just someone dressed up in costume trying to scare everyone, and they would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids!
But the darker tone of Zombie Island with the real zombies was a great twist.
It was such a different concept.
I wouldn’t want all of the villains to be real though.
I can handle it once in a while, but I wouldn’t want it to be the norm.

I love that Scooby meme that was going around a while ago that said “Scooby-Doo taught us that the real monsters are humans.”

I thought The Mystery Begins was much better than Curse of the Lake Monster.
I didn’t like the Shaggy/Velma love angle.
I also didn’t like that Velma was possessed and going against the gang.
They kind of broke up the gang by having Velma as the villain.
I think it would have been better if there was a mystery the whole gang could solve together.

A whole new cast for a Scooby movie…WOW!
I thought about this for hours today!
Ok, If I was casting a movie, I’d want to keep Matthew Lillard and Linda Cardellini as Shaggy and Velma, but you asked for a whole new cast so…I would cast Eric Christian Olsen as Shaggy.
He plays Marty Deeks on NCIS: Los Angeles.
There have been so many Shaggy references made in the show about him.
I think he would make a great Shaggy!
For Daphne, I would choose Emily VanCamp, who plays Emily Thorne on Revenge.
I don’t recall many Scooby references on that show, and Revenge is a lot different than Scooby, but I could see her in the role of Daphne and I think she would do a decent job.
I would cast Mae Whitman as Velma.
She played Amber Holt on Parenthood and voices April O’Neil in the most recent Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle animated series.
She is also doing a movie with Robbie Amell called The Duff.
Then there is Fred!
I have tried to think of someone that I would cast as Fred.
I mean, this has been eating away at me all day!
I can’t think of anyone that would be able to do a great job as Fred.
The only actor that I really thought might be able to pull it off is Chris Hemsworth, and I’m not even totally sure of him!
Fred is really difficult to cast.
So far, we’ve had 2 actors that couldn’t really pull off Fred’s character.
Anyway…who would you pick for Daphne?

I don’t go to the movies very often.
When I do, it is to take my kids to the movies to see what they want to see.
I think it’s very expensive to go to the movies, especially with a family of 5.
I do hear a lot of people complain about the lack of new, original movies.
Really, the nostalgia movies and sequels probably bring in a lot of money, and as long as that is the case, it will continue.

It is a bit crazy that I waited so long to watch the original live action movies.
I looked it up on the forum…I don’t have the exact date, but I watched the first movie at the beginning of 2009.

ThatScoobyDoom: Again, I think that SD:MI nailed that aspect.
Ever episode had “a man in a mask” but they also built up to that extremely ballsy real monster.
Hold onto that thought about Zombie Island, I wanna come back to that a little later.

I love it too, anybody that has followed me on twitter for awhile, or read my bio, knows why. Lol

…not only did it break up the gang…they spoiled the ending of the damn thing within the first 5 minutes!!!
Velma wasn’t around when they were chasing the monster through the house and they were all shocked by who it was…hmm, I wonder who it could be?!?!?
And that doesn’t even bring up the worst part of that movie, where the hell was Scooby?
His name is in the title but he was only on screen for like 10 minutes collectively.
It’s sad really, I loved TMB but I can not stand to watch CotLM.

The dude from NCIS: LA, was he the dude that played the young version of the old guy that fell into the Kryptonite lake and was killing off the folks that convicted him on Smallville?
I think I know the chick that you said is in The Duff.
Not sure who your Daphne is. Chris Hemsworth?
THOR as Fred?
That would be hard to swallow. Lol
But it is a hard question to answer, that’s why I only have 1 of the 4 cast. Lol
My Daphne is Emma Watson, I saw a picture of her a while back and she looked startlingly like Daphne.
She had the scarf, head band, and everything.
I was looking for it but can’t find it, hopefully I do by the time I post this.

Wait…7 years???
Holy shiznit!!!

@ScoobyAddict: SD:MI did a great job with that!

I forgot about Scooby barely being in the movie!
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen Curse of the Lake Monster.
I don’t plan on watching it anytime soon either!

Eric Christian Olsen played Young Harry Bollston in Smallville.
I only watched the first few episodes of Smallville, so I can’t say that was what he did, but I’m going to assume you are right!
Emily VanCamp played Sharon Carter (Agent 13) in Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
Fred is really difficult to cast!
I say Chris Hemsworth because I think he could look the part of Fred.
Whether he would be good at playing Fred is another story!
I could see Emma Watson as Daphne.
She could definitely look like her.
It is really hard to think of who to cast for the roles.
Like I said, it took me hours yesterday to really think about who would be perfect for each role.

7 years lol!

ThatScoobyDoom: Much like The Dark Knight, I don’t know that I’ll ever watch CotLM again and the DVD version is even worse!

You can ask Ross, I have a very strange connection with Smallville and an ability to recall actors and their roles on it. Lol
I still haven’t seen The Winter Soilder. 😥
And hey, what can I say, I have a bit of a crush on Emma Watson too, so I may have ulterior motives for wanting her cast as Daph…don’t judge me!!!
It is insanely hard to cast for these roles, so much so that I only had 1 name. Lol

Bewildering for sure.

So, after Pup ended…and there was no new series the next year…or the year after that…or the year after that…did you get worried at all?
I’m not sure if you are interested in them or were aware, but there were comics still being published by Archie if I remember correctly.

@ScoobyAddict: I can’t say that any of the live action movies are at the top of my list to watch anytime soon! haha

That’s cool that you can recall all of that!

I looked up Emma Watson on Google and I saw a picture of her with a scarf, no hair band though, and she had long hair and I could see how she could look a lot like Daphne.

I was worried after Pup that we wouldn’t see any more Scooby series.
I thought maybe Pup didn’t do so well as a show and that would be the last Scooby series we would ever watch.
Characters havetheir run, but not many characters can have seriesafter series and still be well liked after 40+ years!
11 years later, when What’s New Scooby-Doo? came out, I was ecstatic to see a new series!
And what’s new was close to the classic animation.
Not quite the same, but close.
They modernized their outfits and Fred no longer had his ascot which was hard to get used to.
Everything about this show was more modernized, even the theme song.

This is a little off the subject, but I just realized that all of the series except for The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show and Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated first aired in the month of September.
RR/SD ended in September.
Interesting!

I never really read comics, but that is interesting that Archie comics were still being published!

ThatScoobyDoom: Hey, I watch TMB every year on September 13th.

I wish I was like that with Scooby but there’s just so much it’s hard to store it all in the brain parts.

Right?
I’m gonna dig around and find that gorram pic, I must have it in an old email somewhere.

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So I was wrong about the hand band, but still! Look at her, she'd be a perfect Daphne!

There are alot of characters that have come and gone, look at The Flintstones!
If not for that upcoming WWE movie I highly doubt we’d be seeing any new Flintstones content.
I think Scooby’s longevity can be attributed solely to the dog being center stage, folks love dogs in a big bad way, myself included.
Not many other franchises have a hook like that.

Don’t jump ahead too far, we wouldn’t have gotten What’s New or maybe even the first Live-Action movie without Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island in 1998!
The year before that DC started publishing their 1st Scooby comic series as well.
1998 was the year Scooby relaunched to superstardom and didn’t look back, I wonder if the DC comic lead to the DTV’s or if it was just a coincidence.
This is right around the time I got into Scooby.

Even more interesting is that most of them debuted as close to Sept 13th as they could.
I wonder why they tried different start times of year for RR/SDS & SD:MI since most shows that they had faith in (beyond event series) tend to air first run in the fall.

And BTW, I just did a little research, at the time of Pup’s cancellation, there weren’t any Scooby comics.
Harvey published some in 93-94, are had the license from 95-96 and had a 20 issue (or so) run that ended when DC got the license in 97.
So, there have been nonstop Scooby comics since 93 it looks like.

@ScoobyAddict: It is definitely difficult to remember every detail of Scooby-Doo!
As the older I get, the less I can retain lol!

The only reason they are bringing back The Flintstones and The Jetsons is because of nostalgia!
They know we will take our kids to see the movies or buy them.
I’m not even sure kids know those shows.

I forget the comics have been published for so long.

I guess when you combine the series and the movies, Scooby has only really had a 7 year lapse.
I don’t really count Scooby-Doo in Arabian Nights as a Scooby movie.
Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island definitely paved the way for WNSD.
We’ve gotten at least 1 new DTV Scooby movie since 1998, keeping Scooby in the spotlight!

For SD:MI, I’m guessing the release was set by the network and they just kind of got it out there.
Maybe they felt pressure to release it earlier.

I’m happy to see the Scooby comics being made by DC.
The first set of comics, just titled Scooby-Doo were made from 1997-2010 and then Scooby-Doo! Where Are You? from 2010 – now.

ThatScoobyDoom: I hear ya.

Totally, but still.
Outside of cereal, yhat franchise was dead.
Seth MacFarlane tried and failed to revive it a few years ago, I was really looking forward to that too.
And even when I was in school 10 years ago, not alot of kids know these old cartoons.
And it’s understandable to a degree, the 90’s had alot of great cartoons.

I don’t count Arabian Nights because it sucked. Lol
Did you see Zombie Island when it first came out?

Maybe, but given how they marketed that show (or rather didn’t) doubtful that they felt pressure.

And don’t forget Scooby-Doo Team-Up started in late 2013.
I reviewed a comic from the 1970’s for ScoobyFan.Net, the older comics are far better than the ones we have today…with the possible exception of Team-Up.
Team-Up is one of the comics I miss getting the most.

@ScoobyAddict: Seth McFarlane’s Flintstone revival could have been interesting, but I’m not sure a new Flintstones series would really make it with all the competition that is out there.
It was have to be absolutely amazing!

I did see Zombie Island soon after it was released.
Usually when a new movie is released, I’ll buy it and then we have a movie night and I watch it with my husband and our 3 kids.
They enjoy that because they get popcorn and usually get to stay up later lol.

Scooby-Doo Team Up was meant to be similar to the 70’s Scooby comics, so it makes sense that if you liked the original comics, you would like Team Up.

ThatScoobyDoom: I Don’t know, it could have worked.
Everything else is basically a modern day version of that with a twist, The Simpsons, Family Guy.
The funniest thing to me about Seth’s Flintstones was that folks immediately trashed it and thought it would just be dirty jokes, which I doubt he would have done…but even if he had, Hanna-Barbera made dick jokes in the original so why is the mere thought of Seth doing them a crime against humanity?

And before you or anybody else thinks I’m blowing smoke about Hanna-Barbera making a dick joke… http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=IJPi3Ej0h2A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What was your first impression of ZI?

And similar to The New Scooby-Doo Movies, which is another one of my favorite series.

@ScoobyAddict: I think Seth would have been more likely to do it tastefully.
It wouldn’t make sense if he made it vulgar.
That video is funny!

I liked Zombie Island.
I liked that it was darker and a little more scary than what we were used to.
They gave the characters a more modern look and it was kind of cool to see that they had these lives aside from being part of the gang.
I always looked at them more as being kids/teens, but in Zombie Island they were adults who had jobs.
It was interesting that they did that with the 7 year lapse.
I liked that the zombies were real.
It was a different concept and with the gap in movies and series, It was nice to see some creativity with Scooby’s return.

I liked The New Scooby Movies!
I loved the guest stars on the shows.
I wish they would revamp that show now.
A new series with modern guest stars…I could think of many people they could solve mysteries with!

ThatScoobyDoom: Totally, alot of people said the same thing about Cosmos and look how that turned out.
Seth had the utmost respect for Bill and Joe, he surely wouldn’t have pissed on that.
I thought so too.

Me too, I think one of things that can make WAY a bit tedious at times is the laughtrack.
That show would probably be spooky as hell without it and I felt Zombie Island kind of proved that.
It made it fresh in a way it hadn’t been in years, it gave us plenty of the “man in a mask” and then whipped a freakin’ giant cat lady and some biters at you.
In many ways I think those first 4 DTV’s were the best.

In a way it is being revived just without the name, the Blue Falcon movie, the WWE movie, the upcoming KISS movie.
Don Knotts and Johnathan Winters were among my favorite guest stars.
Who were some of your favorites?
As for current day stars, The Harlem Globetrotters would still be good, WWE again, and I’d love to see a true Weird Al crossover!

@ScoobyAddict: They definitely overused the laugh track in SDWAY!
I never liked laugh tracks.
It’s not like the show was taped in front of a live studio audience…I think we can do without laugh tracks!
I did always like the sound of them running though haha.

I guess they are kind of reviving The New Movies.
I don’t like WWE, so that doesn’t really appeal to me so much.
I really liked Davy Jones!
I loved his accent and he was always my favorite Monkee! (He touched my hand at a Monkee’s concert I went to when I was like 10. lol.)
I also really liked The Addams Family.
I think their creepiness added a lot to the episode and they already had the spooky house!

I know I’ve said this before, but it would be awesome if they had Rob Zombie write a Scooby-Doo movie!
He’d have to tone it down a lot from his movies, but I think he could do it and do it well!
He’d also have to write and perform the theme song for it and be the guest in the movie!
I think he could do wonders with a Scooby movie!
I wouldn’t mind the cast of NCIS or NCIS:LA as guest stars in a movie.
The Muppets would be fun!!
Weird Al would be cool!
My kids used to sing his songs all the time!
That could be a really fun crossover.
There was a show on a while ago called Without a Trace.
A scooby movie like that would be cool!
Every time I watched that show I could see Scooby and the gang trying to help find the missing person!

ThatScoobyDoom: Worst element of the franchise to me.
It was drawn infront of a live studio audience!

I just want them to right the big wrong from Wrestlemania Mystery, Undertaker needs to be in Scooby!
There are so many episodes from that series I haven’t seen in years, I liked the Davy ep and Dick Van Dyke was great too.

Were you a Munsters or Addams Family kid?

Rob Zombie doing a Scooby anything would be fucked up and awesome!
The NCIS casts?
Are you thinking murder mysteries?
Muppets would be fun for sure.

I would love for Bruce Timm to be put in charge of a Scooby series, he did AMAZING work on Batman, Superman, and Justice League!!!

@ScoobyAddict: I know nothing about WWE! lol
The Dick Van Dyke ep was good!

I watched both The Munsters and The Addams Family, but I always liked The Addams Family better.
Herman Munster was a lot like Frankenstein, but The Addams Family had Lurch and Thing.
Lurch was funny to me how he’s answer the door “You rang!” with that voice and totally creepy and emotionless look on his face.
Thing was great and amusing!
They also had a dragon living under their stairs…that right there was the coolest thing I had ever seen!
haha!

Rob Zombie is twisted in a creative kind of way.
He’s got what it takes to take Scooby to a new level of scary, but he’d have to make it more geared towards kids.
Look at that Woolite commercial he did.
Who knew laundry detergent could be so creepy!
It’s not like he showed anything bad in the commercial, but it was creepy.
If he did something like that with Scooby, minus the laundry detergent of course, it would be a masterpiece!
With the NCIS casts, I was thinking more of a missing person, and not a murder mystery.

ThatScoobyDoom: Nobody’s perfect. Lol

I was a Munsters man, them Addams’ were a bunch of whack-a-doos. Lol
The Munsters had Spot under the stairs, but I will agree Lurch was awesome.
That is a great voice.

Rob Zombie did that Woolite commercial?
That explains it!
I always thought that was kind of cool.
That could work, and it would be interesting to see Shaggy’s reaction to Gibbs smackin’ him upside the head.
I will say this though, even though I liked the Addams Family & Globetrotters episodes, I wonder how having “the cast of…” would work today.
The 2 I mentioned and the Stooges episodes always stuck out for being slightly weirder (IMO) than “Hey look kids, it’s Batman & Robin” or “Dick Van Dyke” or “Phyllis Diller” just because they were really crossing the streams of vastly different franchises.

@ScoobyAddict: lol!

Doh!
I guess I don’t remember the details of the shows like I thought lol!
I still liked The Addams Family better.
Yeah, it was goofy and they were crazy!
That was what made the show good.

Yes, Rob Zombie did a great job with the Woolite commercial!

I could see Gibbs smacking Shaggy in the back of the head.
Or Fred.
That would be funny!

I think those shows were weirder because of the characters.
The Three Stooges were always weird, The Addams Family was weird too.
I think they carried that over to the Scooby show to keep the characters as they were.

ThatScoobyDoom: Totally, I liked the Addams’ but Munsters was my favorite of the 2.
I’ve said this in previous Typecasts, but it’s amazing the wacky shit they did back in the day that they would NEVER do now.

I had no clue he did that commercial.

And I’m glad they kept them true to form, but those eps don’t go down as smooth for me.

So, what do you think of the very little we’ve seen from Be Cool so far?

@ScoobyAddict: Be Cool Scooby-Doo…when I first saw the drawing of the characters, I was disgusted!
All I kept thinking was this was going to be Get A Clue all over again.
I thought the characters looked demented, like they were drawn by a 5 year old!
I was really worried about the show, and not very excited about it.
Of course, with all Scooby shows, I knew I would give it a chance, but I didn’t have very high hopes for it.
Over the past few weeks, Jon Colton Barry, who is one of the writers for Be Cool Scooby-Doo, has been answering questions and giving us little pieces of information about the show on my forum.
Here is the link to that thread: http://scoobyaddicts.proboards.com/thread/2908/new-series-cool-scooby-doo.
He knew that we weren’t thrilled with the artwork, but I think he helped us all see the show a little differently.
He was a writer for Phineas & Ferb, one of my favorite modern cartoons and one of the only cartoons from the past few years that I could handle watching with my kids.
I love the writing in P&F, and it made me look at Be Cool a totally different way knowing that JCB would be writing it.
Ok…I know that wasn’t what you asked, but I had to share that.
As for not seeing much about Be Cool, I think in time we will see more.
I don’t think they want to give away a lot at this point.
WI do hope they stick with a September air date to follow most of the other series.

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s exactly what I meant, but before I go further I just want to say something about your board (but more so about proboards in general).
I haven’t been on your board in…geez, probably close to 2 years and it’s 100% because of that update they did.
With the shitty phones I’ve had, it takes no less than 5 minutes to load.
The mobile version sucks too.
I remember when they were beta testing the update and Ross signed up for it on his now defunct board, I couldn’t post anymore.

Now that I got that off my chest, I’ve never seen Phineas and Ferb but I know Dan Povenmire created it and he did some of the best episodes of Family Guy so I always kinda wanted to see it.

And speaking of Family Guy, I never understood or saw how folks compared the art style, or more aptly tthe character designs, of Be Cool to Family Guy.
It looks like Courage The Cowardly Dog or something, Velma sort of looks vaugely Meg-like but that’s it.

See, they originally said it would air during the 2014 TV season (which is rapidly drawing to a close) but they’ve since said it will air in 2015.
And this again is what pisses me off about CN, they push the mind rot shows like Adventure Time or some such nonsense but something like Scooby or Young Justice (that has a semi presold audience) they screw around so much it’s exhausting.

That short sizzle reel they showed looked pretty decent to me, so I’m willing to give it a chance.
That first teaser image of Scooby did make him look severely brain damaged though. Lol

@ScoobyAddict: I’ve had so many issues with Proboards, especially trying to access it through my phone.
For a short time after the update, no matter how I tried to access my forum, it said I was banned.
How could I be banned from my own forum?
I had to contact proboards and they have sort of fixed it.
I still get the banned message sometimes when I try to access it from my phone.
But the forum has been very successful, so moving it somewhere else isn’t an option.
I just hope they can correct the issues someday.

Phineas & Ferb was great!
They solved problems, used their creativity, and the show wasn’t annoying like Adventure Time and The Amazing World of Gumball…you know, all the shows that CN pushes down everyone’s throats, like you said!
I know a lot of people that love those shows, but I just don’t see the fascination with them.
They annoy me!
I’ve always wondered why CN seems to have a problem with Scooby.
Hey, there’s a mystery for the gang to solve!

I give every series a chance, though sometimes I go into it without an open mind, like with Get A Clue.
I would have done the same thing with Be Cool, but JCB changed my mind about the show.
I’m really looking forward to it now!

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ThatScoobyDoom: In my experience, proboards is the best but they gotta quit screwing with shit.
I miss reading your board.

I seriously baffles me, they should have stretched out the end of SD:MI and plugged the hell out of it but instead they burned through the episodes with little promotion so they could get back to the normal annoying bull.
I hate those shows with a fiery passion.
No shit, get some Scooby Snacks cause that mystery is gonna be a tough nut to crack.

Me too.
So, to start wrapping up, what are you excited about for the future of Scooby?

@ScoobyAddict: Proboards was great when I first set up the forum, but the changes they made weren’t great.
I wish you would come back to the forum, but I understand that it not working for you is annoying!

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I’m excited about the new merchandise that will be coming out…the LEGO sets, the new “Re-Mego” figures by Figures Toy Company, and anything else they may come out with.
I still hope to see a Scooby Yahtzee game in the future!
I hope they come out with a Scooby LEGO video game and maybe even a movie.
I’m looking forward to Be Cool, and I hope they continue to make Scooby series after.
And of course the DTV movies…which they should be releasing on Blu-Ray too!

ThatScoobyDoom: I miss just being able to lurk, but given how I talk it’s probably best I can’t post. Lol

Those Re-Megos sound awesome!!!
Mego was well before my time but I always hear about how great those were.
Don’t forget, there is going to be a 22 minute Lego special.
If that does well it could lead to a movie…and speaking of movies!
What do you think about the 2 theatrical movies that were announced and we’ve heard nothing about since?
The Animated movie and the “Reboot”.

Would you have been interested in those 2 proposed series that never happened?
That one that was called Mixed Nuts which was H-B Characters and Looney Tunes Characters in sketches and the other that was going to be the style of the opening sequences for Abra and Camp Scare.

That bugged me that they didn’t put out the newest one on Blu, but hopefully it will get release on Blu by the time I get to see it.

@ScoobyAddict: The original Mego toys looked really cool in pictures!

I keep forgetting about the LEGO special!
I’d love to see it turn into a movie!

I don’t like when WB announces possible Scooby shows or movies and then they just fade away and nothing ever comes of it.
I’d love to see Scooby on the big screen again…in animated form!
I’d prefer they didn’t do live action again, but if they do, they should use the cast I chose lol!
I wonder if they could make Scooby work with a live action cast and an animated Scooby…like Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
or Space Jam!

I never heard of Mixed Nuts, so I had to look it up. (http://cartoonatics.blogspot.com/2011/04/cartoon-shows-that-never-were-2-mixed.html)
I really like the concept and I think it could have worked!
I’d love to see Scooby and The Looney Tunes together!
There is a video game for the Nintendo 3DS called Scooby Doo & Looney Tunes Cartoon Universe: Adventure.
I had never heard about it until about a week ago when I was working on the Video Game page to add to the website.
My kids have a 3DS, so I may buy the game.
I have no clue if the Scooby characters and The Looney Tunes characters interact with each other.
It would be cool if they do!

I liked the opening sequences for Abra and Camp Scare.
I liked that they did something a little different.
I was also happy to see the movies were not done in that animation style.
Fred looks like Elvis and Velma is really short!
I don’t know if I would like a series in that style, though I do like it better than Be Cool.

Have you ever seen The Mystery Map or the live Scooby stage show?

ThatScoobyDoom: I’ve seen them on Comic Book Men, they rave about them.

Me too, though I want a game more at this point.
Video Games tend to have a way of burrowing into peoples minds these day so I think that would be a bigger help to the franchise.

Yeah, bugs me too because I have always wanted to see animated Scooby on the big screen.
If they used the current DTV style with a bigger budget it would be magical.
I don’t think that would work, it would seem weird to me after seeing a realistic dog next to humans.
It was kinda weird seeing Shag and Scooby rip Matt a new one in Looney Tunes: Back In Action.
But why can’t they just get their shit together and do both?
Do an animated movie one summer and the next do another live-action movie!

I thought it sounded fun but that’s how WB works though. *shrugs*
There was supposedly a code for that crossover game in the Big Top disc case, but I couldn’t get it so I don’t know.
But I like the idea of that game for sure, it sounds like the Reeses Peanut Butter Cup of games.

I think if they would put alot of effort into the story, I could handle any style they’d throw at me.
I just like seeing the characters reimagined in different ways.
That’s part of why Pup and SD:MI work for me, because they look different.
Though I do think the current DTV style is the best they’ve ever looked.
I’d like to see them done CG but I’m afraid they’d stick with it so I’m okay imagining it. Lol

Never seen the stage show but I gave The Mystery Map a glowing review.
( http://scoobyfan.net/scooby-doo-adventures-the-mystery-map-review/ )
It was a great revival of Pup and I want to see more of those for damn sure!

@ScoobyAddict: A game would definitely be better than a LEGO movie!
I wish there were more Scooby games…although I’d want to play them and I’d never get anything done!

I don’t know if we’ll really see Scooby on the big screen anytime soon.
And I think we’d be more likely to see a live action Scooby movie as opposed to an animated on in theaters.

I’ll have to see if I can get the game!

You certainly did a detailed review of The Mystery Map.
I felt that it was weird.
Scooby as a puppet was not really my thing.
It wasn’t bad, but it was difficult to get used to.

I did get to see the live stage show, Scooby-Doo! Live Musical Mysteries.
I wrote a review of it.
(http://scoobyaddicts.com/News.aspx? pageIndex=3&NumRows=5)
Scroll down the page to find it.
I enjoyed it, but I also didn’t expect a lot from it because it is geared towards younger kids.
It was cute though!

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ThatScoobyDoom: I think so, games are longer than movies so they tend to stick with you more.
I wish there were too, it makes me really sad that there was never a game on the PS3 console generation.

I don’t think we will either, if I’m honest I doubt we’ll see animated Scooby on the big screen at all.
They may have announced it, but given how quickly they made the reboot announcement after the animated movie announcement it would appear they are one and the same.
The chances of us getting two big screen Scooby movies as close together as those two would have to be are far more astronomical than successfully navigating an asteroid field.

Let us know how it is.

Yeah, I do my reviews and shit like that because I know alot of folks that follow me on twitter don’t really know much about the current Scooby stuff so I want to give them as good picture as I can without spoiling it.
That and I just love writing/talking about Scooby, that’s one of the reasons why you were one of the folks I wanted to get for a Typecast.
You can ask Ross, I was nervous about asking you to do it, mostly because we’ve not had much interaction, but this has turned out better than I could have hoped.
Rare that I can cut loose and talk Scooby with somebody different and they actually know what they hell I’m on about.

Nice piece.
I think I remember reading that, I would love to see it it just to see a new story.
Oooo, I noticed it was at the Beacon in NYC.
Carlin did some of his HBO specials there.

@ScoobyAddict: If we ever do get another Scooby movie in theaters, it will most likely be live action for sure.

I think it’s great that you do your reviews.
I always enjoy reading them.
I know other people look to reviews before they decide to watch the movies.
It’s hard sometimes to get good, honest reviews too, and I know you are honest in the reviews you write.

Nervous about asking me to do the typecast?
huh?
I am really a nobody, I just run a Scooby-Doo website because I love Scooby-Doo and I wanted a place for fans to get as much information as they could get about Scooby.
I have very much enjoyed this.
I don’t really get to talk Scooby with many people.
My kids just roll their eyes at me when I try to talk to them about it lol.
And like you said, many people don’t get it!

I would recommend you seeing it if you can.
Beacon Theater was a beautiful place!
George Carlin was great!
He told it like it was.

ThatScoobyDoom: Everything I do, be it the reviews, these Typecasts, the videos, whatever, is because I love it.
So thanks for that.

Yes, nervous.
You may think you’re “a nobody” but I promise you that you’re not looked at that way, you provided a service of sorts when nobody else did.
Maybe it’s just me, but in a strange way I look upto and respect you for that.
There is a reason I wanted to talk to you after all.

I’m not sure if it was ever here in ST.L.
Carlin, amongst others, was, and continues to be, a huge influance on me.
He’s definitely the reason I’m so free with language, because there’s no such thing as “Bad Words”.
Bad intentions? Shit yeah!
Bad People? You bet your ass!
But Bad Words? Ridiculous.
It’s so damn arbitrary.
Modern day philosopher.

@ScoobyAddict: It’s great that you can do something you love!

Thank you!
It means a lot that you would say you respect me.
I put a lot of time into my website, and sometimes it’s hard to work on it because of time constraints.
I have so many new ideas to add to the site to really expand it a lot.
Plus, the new project will be a lot of work and I hope the fans like it just as much as they like ScoobyAddicts.com.
I always feel like I am letting people down when a lot of time lapses and I haven’t added anything new.

I post a lot of quotes and inspirational stuff on my personal Facebook page.
I’d love to quote Carlin more often, but I know people find him offensive.

ThatScoobyDoom: Keeps me sane. Lol

I truly have admired your work from afar for quite some time.

Yeah, but the thing you have to remember is to do what you want.
Can’t worry about offending folks or you’ll never have anything to say because in this day and age somebody gets offended by everything.

Is there anything else you want to say about Scooby, or anything in general?

@ScoobyAddict: Sanity is good lol!

Thank you!

Well…I’m sad to have this end lol! It’s been fun!
I hope people try to keep an open mind for Be Cool Scooby-Doo!
I know the writers are awesome, and from what I’ve been told, it’s going to be a really great show!
Of course, I heard it from one of the writers and he’s biased haha!
But really, I’m looking forward to when it airs, and I’m hoping it airs online somewhere because I don’t have cable.

ThatScoobyDoom: I just hope they all have a healthy respect for everything that came before, at this point it all feeds to the legacy.

Hey, you can always come back for another one!
I can think of a few things we can go a bit more in depth about.
It’s been my pleasure having you.

@ScoobyAddict: I agree!

I’d be honored to do another one sometime!

Thank you so much for having me!

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Now, be sure to follow Scooby Addict on Facebook and Twitter at https://www.facebook.com/Scoobyaddictscom and https://twitter.com/ScoobyAddict.

Subscribe to her Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/Sc00byAddicts.

And most importantly, visit her site at http://www.scoobyaddicts.com/, it really is a great resource.

And if you feel so inclined, visit her board at http://www.scoobyaddicts.proboards.com/ and get involved in some great Scooby discussion!

Special thanks to @ScoobyFanDotNet for some images.

That’s all I’ve got for you guys this time, but remember!
The world has enough bad in it, why don’t you try adding some good?

Thanks for reading.

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How It Happened: Interview With A Declachaun: Creaky Strikes Back

This one is a strange one for a few reasons, probably the biggest of which was because it wasn’t really planned, it just happened.

I had planned for this month to be a by month, I was going to really focus in here on the site and work on Typecasts, a few How It Happened’s, and a few other things I’ve wanted to do…but when my April video fell through (more on that in the next paragraph) I didn’t want to have 2 months in a row with no videos.
So I was kind of scrambling to find some idea of what the hell I wanted to do.

Since Senior Moment 3 came into my head I’d though about doing videos for as many of the fluffy holidays this year as I could, I had New Years covered with SM3, I wrote, edited, and recorded an Easter video, but I struggled with St. Patrick’s Day.
That was when I decided to skip March.
But the best laid plans and all that…I’d asked a few artists about doing art for the Easter video but they were all too busy (that’s what happens when you work with truly talented folks kids. HIGH DEMAND!) to help me out with it.
So with that going kaputski I started thinking about taking another look at St. Paddy’s Day.

I knew I had to do something with a Leprechaun so on February 6th I sent this email to @DeQuinn: “I may be working on a project here soon and I was wondering if you would mind if I used a pic of you as a leprechaun in it?
If not, no worries.

Thanks.”

He replied and gave me the okay, after that I had to start taking it seriously.
Wracking my brain thinking, trying desperately to come up something to do…and I got nothin’…how hard can it be?
St. Patrick’s Day, green, irish, think! think! think…BRAIN BLAST!!!
Kermit The Frog!
I know it’s not great, but much like my Tricia Takanawa impression, I feel I can capture Kermit’s voice semi decently, so I knew I could do something with him.
And I remember when I was a wee lad that Kermit was an on site reporter (I asked on tweeter if he ever did interviews and a few people said yes or they thought so, @MattAndCorey [listen to their podcast Matt And Corey Talk Too Much which I did a bit of business on the recent Christmas episode] was one of those) on Sesame Street, so that was my hook.

So I started writing like a bastard trying to think of where an Interview With A Leprachaun could go.
But as I was writing I started thinking about visuals, and if you’ve seen my videos you know I don’t do anything complicated on my own, I don’t have those skills.
Again, I took to twitter, I asked if there were any photoshoppers interested in working with TS-D/JA Productions on something, if so DM.
I got 1 reply from @ThatJoser saying he’d be down, but he’d have to wait 2 weeks or so (if I remember right).
He told me he’d do it when he could but if I could find  somebody else to go with them, I let him know the job was his unless I did find another.
Enter the multi-talented @ShariSayz!
As I recall, we were talking about something else and she said she could do photoshop, we talked a bit about it, I gave her the details, she asked for a pic of Dec…shit!
I forgot about that!
But, when it comes to TESD and all related folks there is only 1 person you can turn too, the lovely @TESDGroupie (check out the Typecast I did with her here and follow her on Instagram here).
She sent me 2 pix of the man behind @CreakyStudios that I sent to Shari.

A day or 2 later I’d finished writing and had started recording when @ShariSayz (speaking of, visit her site/blog at Shaarc.ca) sent me this picture…

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…and first and foremost, I was shocked she got such a well rendered pic done in like 2 days.
That’s beautiful!
Perfectly rendered based on my description…but I got a bit worried that it was too empty.
She did exactly what I asked for and did almost exactly what I had in my head…but for some reason I saw an open field (what I told her and @ThatJoser to give me) being fuller.
I asked her if she could maybe add a few trees and maybe a road, she said yes.
Then being the master of guilt and wishy-washy…ness…I started feeling bad that I asked her for more when she already did such a great job and told her not to bother making the changes.

Then I turned to @FromTheMonkey (listen to his podcast Just Give Me A Few Minute) to give me some sound effects to put it over the top.
I told him I needed “the sound of a card table being flipped, which knocks a mic onto gravel.” and as usual Mike came through with flying colors.

So anyway, I finished recording and uploaded this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtLS-CTydSA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Now, 2 of the other big reasons why I say this video is strange would be because, if I’m completely honest, this video didn’t take much work at all.
It was simple, 2 voices I’ve used for years to entertain myself talking to each other, and artwork done by another talented individual.
Simple as pie…mmmmmm, pie…
And the other reason would be the reaction, for example this tweet from one of my long time subscribers/supporters @SMorgan21 (screencap provided by the great @TESDGroupie)…

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A tweet from @SMorgan21 https://t.co/cmuVcBEjoj

…I swear, it seems the videos I put the least time and effort into are the ones folks like the most!
It makes me laugh like a damn lunatic…but it also makes me worry about the videos I put 10, 20, hell even 30 hours into like the Star Wars: The Challenge Of Darth Doom videos I’m doing.

The reaction to this video has been great, as I write this it has 60 views and 10 likes!
Makes me think I’ll have to invoke the name of Creaky again soon.

So, thanks to @TESDGroupie for the pictures of Declan, mega thanks to @DeQuinn for allowing me to use his face part, big thanks to @FromTheMonkey for the crashing mic, and huge thanks to @ShariSayz for the picture that makes it all work.

And I just want to say that I hope that @ThatJoser and I get to work on something in the future.

Thanks for reading, go out in the world and don’t be a dick.
There’s more than enough of those already.

Be sure to share this post and the video on twitter with the hash #CreakyStrikesBack.

Typecast #7: A Hero Returns

WHAT’S UP PEOPLE?!?!?
Damn, I launched on your asses, but for good reason cause this is a good one.
Back is the man without whom none of this exists, dude what we’ve had round these parts before, SpiderScooby returns…and so do other heroes!

This time we talked about The Avengers…alot!…Agent Carter, and a homecoming that nobody expected so soon.

His parts of the conversation appear with his name, SpiderScooby, in red and link to his Scooby site, ScoobyFan.net.
As usual, this conversation appears just as it was had, all spelling fuck-ups intact, just to maintain the honesty of it all.

Take it away me!

ThatScoobyDoom: Last time there was 1 movie we left out, The Avengers.
For me, and I know this is going out on a limb, this is the best film of Phase 1.

I’m gonna guess you liked it too?

SpiderScooby: How about best superhero movie ever made?

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ThatScoobyDoom: Pretty much.
I don’t know about you, but for me that was the movie of a lifetime.

SpiderScooby: Yeah, despite some small issues here and there, it really deserves all the praise it gets.

ThatScoobyDoom: Issues such as…?

Just seeing those characters on screen at once was mind blowning.

SpiderScooby: Hawkeye for one.
Generic invading aliens for second.

It’s amazing they pulled it off too.
This could had easily ended up being Iron Man and His Amazing Friends.
But I think they made the right call hiring Joss Whedon, someone who knows how to work with such a big cast.

ThatScoobyDoom: I don’t think Hawkeye was bad or anything just under utilized.

Yeah, there was really no preamble there just “ah, the aliens are here cause Loki brought ’em”.

Totally, dude deftly spun dem plates.
Brought his energy, experiance, and humor to it in perfect quantities.

SpiderScooby: He wasn’t bad, but he definitely got the short end of the stick here.

Yeah, you could really throw them in any alien invasion movie and you’d get the same result.

He also gave us the best version of Hulk on screen.
I know you’re not a fan of Ruffalo, do you agree?

ThatScoobyDoom: He did, but not in a way that brings things down.
He just had no development.
You can see they tried with the Black Widow backstory but it was pretty much too little too late at that point.

That for me is the only down side, I didn’t like his Hulk or Bruce Banner at all.
For one, the way he kept saying “the other guy” just sounded stupid and childish.
Almost as bad as “red in my ledger”, both are annoying phrases that grind my gears everytime I hear them.
For two, I hated how apelike he was.
I always saw Hulk, in away, as a monster of confidence and making him kinda drag his knuckles was a switch in body language that just read as weakness to me.

Better than Bana but far worse than Norton in my book.

SpiderScooby: I feel like he was completely useless.

I disagree.
Hulk is my favorite thing out of the entire movie.
Better than Norton, even better than Bixby.
This is the defenitive version of Hulk on screen.
My favorite moment of the movie is Ruffalo’s “That’s my secret, Cap.
I’m always angry.” line.
And then he changes into The Hulk and smashes the alien ship.
I loved how Ruffalo and RDJ play off each other.
As for Hulk himself, I didn’t mind that he was ape like.
I felt they found a good balance between the savage and intelligent Hulks.
The CGI for Hulk is also top notchn
The CGI doesn’t hold up in either Hulk movie.
He looks fantastic in Avengers.

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ThatScoobyDoom: He was basically there to try to force emotion in Act 3.
He could be cool I bet, they just need to try harder in Age Of Ultron.

While I did like that line and the CGI was good (I think TIH’s CG is damn good, BTW) I just do not buy Ruffles as a meek scientist.
The dichotomy of Banner and Hulk, the thing that makes it all work is that Banner is physically weak, Mark Ruffalo looks far to imposing to even attempt to pull that off.
At times he even came off slightly wooden.
I have nothing against him as an actor, but he just doesn’t fit the part.
Norton did.
Norton is a small dude and that works.
The whole relationship between him and RDJ only came off so well because RDJ did all the heavy lifting.
I mean, come on, he had 2 movies to charm us and win us over before Avengers.

SpiderScooby: I get what you’re saying, but I don’t mind him being imposing(that scene with him and Black Widow in the beginning really works for me).
I think he does the scientist thing well.
But it’s more of a nerdy kinda scientist than meek.

ThatScoobyDoom: That scene with Widow was good…but that was the first indication I had that I wasn’t going to like his Banner.

And that’s why it fails, he’s meek for a reason.
He does whatever he possibly can to avoid triggers unless he runs across an injustice ie that chick getting hassled in TIH.

SpiderScooby: Wouldn’t you say he had enough control to where he wouldn’t be set off by such triggers?

ThatScoobyDoom: Not really, he kinda lost it when Loki attacked the Helicarrier.
Remember how he was struggling to stay in control before he roared at Widow?
He even mentions it being a bad idea when he first gets on the Helicarrier.

SpiderScooby: Yeah, but there’s a big difference between pointy things and big explosion.
Remember the “I’m always angry” scene I mentioned eariler?
He clearly is able to change at will.
ThatScoobyDoom: My point is he’s in control, but now 100%.
Shit can still go down and catch him off guard and send him into a rage, as shown in the scene on the Helicarrier.

What did you think of his antagonistic relationship with THOR?

SpiderScooby: Yeah, kinda my point.
He has control until something like that comes along that causes him to lose control.
Of course I gotta think some of that was Loki contoling him.

It made for some good comedic moments(Hulk punching Thor).

ThatScoobyDoom: That it did, and the fight they had on the Helicarrier was great.
I especially liked Hulk attempting to lift the hammer and (obviously) failing.

Who was the stand out character in Avengers for you?

SpiderScooby: I think my favorite moment was Hulk punching Thor.

You mean other than Hulk(because he was truely the stand out character to me)?
I love how the movie follows the POV of Captain America.
It really feels like a sequel to The First Avenger.

ThatScoobyDoom: It was a great moment, and that whole shot leading up to it was awesome too.

Cap did use the spotlight well, it felt like a third Iron Man 3, a third Cap 2, and a third for everybody else.

Was it just me or did Tony end up with alot more screen time than they lead us to believe he would get?

SpiderScooby: Out of all the characters, Iron Man is the most popular, so no surprise there.
Which is funny, because it doesn’t feel like Iron Man 3 to me.
That was one of my worries going in.
That this would be Iron Man & Friends.
Thankfully it doesn’t come off like that despite all his screen time.

ThatScoobyDoom: Well, at times it felt like they were a bit afraid to get away from him for too long just because he is so popular.
I would’ve liked more THOR, a character I’ve really grown to like the more I think about it.

SpiderScooby: I think they found a good balance between most of the characters.
I, too, really liked Thor.
Especially his relationship to Coulson.

ThatScoobyDoom: I do too.
I don’t mean to sound like I’m saying they didn’t, I think it just felt like they were relying on Cap and Tony just incase it didn’t work…or maybe to ensure it did work.
But with Joss Whedon at the helm, shouldn’t have been a fear.

I wanna get to Coulson in just a minute, but I’m drawing a blank.
Did he and Thor have much interaction?

SpiderScooby: They have a few moments together, yeah.
Right before Loki reveals his plans.

ThatScoobyDoom I really don’t remember that.

Were there any characters from the previous films that you wish they would’ve used?
For me, I wanted to see Rhodey. I know they did a prequel comic that explained why Rhodey wasn’t there, but they didn’t even really reference him.
Plus, with all that shit going down, you’d think it’d be all hands on deck.

SpiderScooby: Rhodey would’ve been nice, but he is in Age of Ultron so there’s that.

ThatScoobyDoom: Indeed.

Was there anybody that was missing for you?

SpiderScooby: Rhodey was the big one.
The movie is crowded enough already, I don’t know if we needed anymore characters.
Even Pepper disappears for most of the movie.

ThatScoobyDoom: Well, at least a mention.
Rhodey didn’t get a mention (that I can recall at least), Betty didn’t get a mention, at least Jane did.

So, Coulson, what did you think of his overall arc through the movie?

SpiderScooby: I really liked Coulson in the movie and his interactions with the team{him being a Captain America fanboy was great}.
I do feel like Agents of Shield has cheapened his death a little bit, but I’m willing to forgive that.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, him not really being fazed by Thor but getting kinda giddy about Cap (that creepy line about being there when he woke up comes to mind) was good.

I don’t feel it cheapened it really, I see it as correcting a mistake.
Whedon likes to fuck with his fans and their favorite characters (RIP Wash, RIP Shepard Book) so it didn’t bother me.
Plus, it’s been a good ride seeing how he came back.

Were you shocked by his death?

SpiderScooby: Like I said, it doesn’t really bother me, but I would’ve liked it if he stayed dead.
I do wonder if he’s ever gonna interact with the team again.
Because up to this point, they don’t know he’s still alive.

The first time, yes. I was really trying to avoid spoilers with that movie.
So it was a complete surprise.

ThatScoobyDoom: I was gonna ask you that, a few things about that.
1. Even though S.H.I.E.L.D. is underground at the moment, don’t you think he would or should contact his best asset?
Which might be the Age Of Ultron tie-in, who knows?
2. How pissed do you think Tony will be?
I’m sure Fury will have tried keeping an eye on the team, you can’t just drop all that on a dime.

Agreed, I didn’t see the movie until almost a year later and it was still a shock to see.
What’d you think of Fury manipulating the team with the cards?

SpiderScooby: I think because of the whole Hydra thing, he wants to stay as underground as possible.
Contecting one of the Avengers could possibly jeopardize their cover.
2. I’m sure Cap will have a few words to say, lol.

It was a good motivator.
As Fury said, they need the push.

ThatScoobyDoom: I totally understand that, but when the threat is big enough he will hafta pull out the big guns.
He literally did it with Loki.

You think Cap will be the one to watch in the reunion?
Tony actually knew the dude.

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I guess he had to stoop that low, but seems kinda dirty.
I’m with Hill on that.

SpiderScooby: That was before he was presumed dead.

I think they both will give Fury the beatdwon.

ThatScoobyDoom: Okay, we can come back to this in a minute.

The big news broke a day or 2 ago.
A certain Amazingly Friendly Neighborhood Wallcrawler is headed to the MCU!
Thoughts?

SpiderScooby: I am off the wall excited.
Spider-man in the MCU is someting I’ve wanted for a long time but didn’t think it would ever happen.
There are a couple things about the deal that give me pause{Sony having final creative control}, but I’m super excited.

ThatScoobyDoom: I’m 100% with you brother.

I saw the Tweet from Marvel the second it went up and clicked the link to Marvel.com and the site was down.
The wording was kinda funky to in the tweet so I was trying to not get my hopes up but as soon as the site loaded…I had goosebumps like I did watching the Episode VII trailer.
Just complete and total excitement!

What are you most pumped to see from it?

SpiderScooby: I almost didn’t see it.
I was about to go to bed, but I figured ” Oh, I’ll check ComingSoon.Net real quick and..Spidey joining the MCU…wait, what?”.

Having him in Cival War.
Now I don’t think he’ll have as big of role as he did in the comics.
But it’s nice to see they’ll be able to tell that story with him in it.

ThatScoobyDoom: It was almost 20 minutes before they got it, I was surprised it took so long.

That is up there for me too!
With him being involved it that I hope we see my favorite Spidey suit (besides the classic), I would need a change of undies if they use the Iron Spidey suit!

Are you worried like everybody else seems to be that we’ll get his origin again?

SpiderScooby: I think I saw it a couple hours after it was posted.

No, I don’t think they’re gonna do the origin again.
I think the ideal route would do it in the opening credits like TIH.

ThatScoobyDoom: Exactly, folks seem to forget how smart Marvel is.
Hell, didn’t they say Doctor Strange was going to be established?
If any character needs a damn origin movie surely it’s Doctor Strange, no???

What do you think of the Miles Vs Peter argument that’s begun already?

SpiderScooby: They mention Doctor Strange by name in Winter Solider so clearly he’s on Shield’s radar.

It’s not gonna be Miles.
They specfically mention Peter in the press release.
I have zero problems with Miles Morales.
But I think they should hold off on him for now.
This is Marvel’s flagship character coming into one of the biggest movie franchises of all time, it needs to be the main Spider-man.
Introduce Peter.
Then in Phase 4, you can introduce Miles if you want.

ThatScoobyDoom: Of course, but I mean from the filmmaking standpoint, you ask a random fan of the MCU with no comic knowledge about Doc Strange and they’ll have no clue about him.

We’ve had this conversation privately almost as many times as we’ve discussed Nolan’s Bat movies (I say shitty, you say good) but lets have it here for these good folks.
I agree, but not about Miles in phase 4.
To me, Spider-Man is Peter Parker, Peter Parker is Spider-Man.
Full stop!
Miles, Miguel, All these other none Pete Spider-Men in Spider-Verse, not a single one is Spider-Man.
So to use anybody but Pete is not doing Spider-Man.
What do you say about that?

SpiderScooby: This is true.
I think the bigger question is what happens to Black Panther in Cival War.
Because he was supposed to have a big role in that.
Will audainces care as much if Spidey’s in there?

Frankly while I prefer Peter Parker, I don’t care who is Spider-man.
If you have a well written and engaging character, I could care less who is wearing the mask.
I have not read any issues with Miles Morales, but he is a very well regarded character from what I have seen.
I see that as no different as Wally West replacing Barry Allien or vice versa.
As for Spidey 2099, I see him more like Batman Beyond than anything else.

ThatScoobyDoom: I think he’ll still get some shine, because if he was supposed to have a big role it was to expand the MCU to a new country/culture/hero.
Doubtful that they’ll pass up that chance just because they get to add in a hero that everybody knows.

The go to, especially these days, is that I don’t like Miles as Spidey because he’s black/hispanic.
But the fact of the matter is Dick Grayson isn’t Batman, Bucky Barnes and The Falcon aren’t Captian America, (this one has a better reason than “I don’t like it”) Beta Ray Bill and this New Chick aren’t THOR, some characters are just too iconic to screw with.
It would be like making Scooby a *note* the rest of my message was chopped off and I can’t remember what it was. *end note*

SpiderScooby: Yeah, but it sounded like he was gonna fulfill the role that Spider-man played in the comics.

Lady Thor and Falcon Cap are gimmicks though that probably won’t have any lasting impact.
Miles doesn’t feel like that{maybe at first, but not anymore}.

ThatScoobyDoom: By unmasking?
That seems rather stupid given nobody knows who he is.

I don’t know if Lady THOR is a gimmick, she’ll be around for quite sometime I think.
Falcon will probably drop the Shield though.
Even from the beginning I don’t think I would have called Miles a gimmick.
Maybe calling him Spider-Man is a gimmick, but just as a character, no.
I think he should’ve been given another name, Spider-Boy, Spider-Lad, Tarantula (I don’t think that name is taken in the Ulti-verse), or anything Spider-themed would be fine by me.

SpiderScooby: Not necessarily having him unmasked, but having him there as a big presence.

All deoends on what happens after this Secret Wars thing.
I don’t mind him being called Spider-man.
If Ultimate Peter was still Spider-man, I might agree.
But right now, he is Spider-man in that universe.
No need to call him something else.

One solution I mentioned over on my blog is to do a Miles Morales tv series.
Keep Peter Parker on the big screen and Miles Morales on the small screen.
This way, you can have the best of both worlds without having to pick either one.

ThatScoobyDoom: Gotcha, I’m sure he’ll still get some spotlight before his solo movie comes out.

Well, it seems pretty much like Miles is in the 616.
But after Secret Wars, which is supposed to collapse everything together, then what?
You can’t have 2 Spider-Man’s swinging around.
Peter or Miles, one of them has to give up the title.
Miles is gonna have to drop it.

Eeeeeeee, I don’t know if I like that idea either.
Plus, an idiot studio exec would say that that would cheapen the name value by having him on TV and Film.
But even if you go with that, how do you solve the name issue?
They’re trying to make everything one single story, so it can’t be an alt-universe show.
And besides, it kinda pisses me off that we’ve never gotten a good Spider-Man live-action series.
He’s a character that would really fit it.

I was wondering, do you think they’ll tease Spidey in an after credits scene on Age Of Ultron?

SpiderScooby: I hope so.
I would hate for him to be pushed to the side just for Spider-man.

But you already have two Spider-men running around{not counting Spider-Verse here}: Amazing and 2099.
So it’s not impossible to have two different Spider-men in the same universe.
Sure, they should probably call him someting else if they bring him into the 616 universe, but I don’t care either way.

I don’t know.
I feel like Marvel is much more lenient about using their characters on TV.
It doesn’t need to be an alternate universe show.
It would be best to wait till Phase 4 to do something like this.
But it can work while having Parker exist in the same universe.
As for the name, they can just call it “Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-man” or something like that.

That’s what I’m hoping.
If you’re gonna do a Spidey after credits scene, Ultron makes the most sense.
I can imagine a post-credit scene like this: Tony is talking to someone off screen.
We pull back and we see the Spider symbol.
Fade to black.

ThatScoobyDoom: Is 2099 actually in the present day 616?
Because that falls under the same catagory of stupid as having Miles in the 616 and calling him Spidey in my eyes.

When I say the name issue, I mean calling him Spider-Man period.
Again, a stupid studio exec would say something like “it will create confusion in the marketplace” you’ve gotta remember man, we went through this same shit with Smallville.
They said that Batman being on would create confusion in the marketplace.
They tried saying that same shit around the time that Superman Returns came out.
Then you’ll have the folks who havr never read a comic book in their lives and only watch the Movies and TV shows (who, lets be honest, they make all of this shit for because it’s a bigger audience than comic book readers) wonder who the hell Miles Morales is because they’ve watched 5 Spider-Man movies and never heard the name.
That’s one of those things that makes me wonder if recasting any of the major MCU roles would work, folks have gotten used to all of these people in these roles if suddenly you change actors they may think “hey, Chris Hemsworth is THOR who the hell is this guy?” it’s slightly different but it’s the same thing in principal.

That would work, puts Spidey in the MCU and gives the change to cast him without a rush too.

SpiderScooby: It’s not stupid at all, because it’s not like 2099 is getting in the way of Amazing
{and 2099 is a better book than ASM right now}.

If this was DC we’re talking about, I would agree.
But I would hope Marvel would realize that the general audiance is not that stupid.
See, introducing him on TV would be a way of introducing him to that wider audiance.
Have him on TV first, then bring him into a movie later.

As for recasting, just look how many times they have recast James Bond.

ThatScoobyDoom: We’ll just have to come to the conclusion that I’m stubborn and bullheaded on that front.
As for 2099 being the better book, as much as I hate 2099, I don’t doubt that.

Never EVER doubt the stupidity of a Studio or TV exec, I don’t care which studio or what the track record is.
Remember, and this was admittedly pre-Disney, they had problems with Norton because he (alledgedly) wanted to have a few more character/story moments than just all
***BOOM***
***SMASH***
***ROAR***
in HULK and any of the potential sequels.

That has been a big part of Bond though, and just because it’s worked for Bond doesn’t mean it’s great for every franchise.
I don’t want an Indiana Jones recasting just because Bond did it.
Ford wants to do another movie so let the old bastard do another movie and get off his fuckin’ lawn!

SpiderScooby: I like 2099 as a concept so admittidly I’m biased.

Yeah, but a lot of the problems directors/actors have had with Marvel is that they try to mandate certain things to keep to their vision if that makes sense.

We haven’t really seen someting like that outside of Bond though.
There has nver really been a recasting in a big franchise and have it still be in the same continuity.
The one exception being Brandon Routh in Superman Returns, and he was the best thing about that movie.

ThatScoobyDoom: I like Peter David but, with the exception of the afore mentioned Batman Beyond, I’m not into the whole techno future bullshit thing.

They gave Norton alot of control on the first HULK, if memory serves.

What about Batman?
With the same Alfred and same basic Batmobile, wasn’t that the same continuity?
Routh was great and got landed with a fucked up script.

SpiderScooby: Batman Beyond is definitely better, I’ll say that.

He did, but in the end he didn’t have the creative control he wanted which is why he left.
I know a lot of stuff got cut.
Wasn’t there a cut of the movie that was like 3 hours long or something?

Yeah, but we’re not gonna count those two if you get my meaning. “wink”

ThatScoobyDoom: Beyond is definetly better!

I’m not sure…but I’d like to see that if true.
See, I understand Marvel has a vision for where their Universe is headed, but to stifle these great creative minds is a misstep in my eyes.
That’s why Edgar Wright left Ant-Man…which reminds me…hey internet.
You guys know that Ant-Man can work without Edgar, right?
I love Shaun Of The Dead, but the dude isn’t the end all be all of film makers.
Give the fuckin’ movie a chance!

*throws hands up* And why the hell aren’t we.
*mumbled* Your no fun!

Now lets get back to Avengers, we covered Coulson, who do you want to talk about now?

SpiderScooby: Oh, I agree.
While the Ant-man trailer did absolutely nothing for me, I’m still going to give it the benifit of the doubt.
And let’s not forget people were poo-pooing Gurardians of the Galaxy, and it was the biiggest movie of last year.

What can I say?
I don’t consider bat-ass to be canon.

I can’t remember if I mentioned this or not, but I wish the aliens weren’t so generic.
I mean, I can go with it because that last half is just so epic.
But the villians just so forgettable.

ThatScoobyDoom: It wasn’t a great trailer by any stretch of the imagination but it peaked my interest.
Very true, folks said a talking Tree and Raccoon in space would never work, so why can’t a tiny hero?

Define canon?
It’s pretty clearly the same continuity as the Keaton Bat flicks, those movies just got progressively weirder.

I don’t think you did, but I 100% agree.
Those aliens were just canon fodder.
The whole entire focus was on Loki and his taking control to become King of the world, they were basicly an after thought.

SpiderScooby: And it was only a teaser.
So future trailers could change my mind.

I know this isn’t a Batman typecast but it’s like they said “Batman Returns was too dark so let’s make them more like the old tv show”.
I enjoy Batman Forever but B&R just took things too far.

If Loki wasn’t there, this movie would be a whole lot weaker.

ThatScoobyDoom: Totally, like the Star Wars teaser.
Folks were bitching because it only had quick flashes of shit…I’m like “are you retarded? Do you not understand what TEASER means???” folks just like to bitch, can’t stop it, brother.

I think that’s exactly what happened, because there was a GROSS overreaction from Returns to Forever.
As for this being a Bat Typecast, did you not read the 2nd Typecast?
That was supposed to be about Star Wars and we went off on a tangent about Metallica. Lol

Without question it would be weaker, folks grew to love Loki so they kinda put all of their time and energy into making him the star.
They always say a hero is only as good as his villain, and this proves it.
By focusing on him it made you believe that this motley crew might not win…you knew they would!
But there was a sliver of doubt.

SpiderScooby: I like a trailer that doesn’t give the whole movie away.
I thought the Ep7 teaser was just fine.

In that case, can I just say that Forever is highly underrated?
It’s a entertaining movie, even if the performaces were over the top.

It helps when you’ve cast such a charming guy.
I just hope they don’t end up overusing him in future movies.

ThatScoobyDoom: Me too, like A Million Ways To Die In The West, Christopher Lloyd being in it as Doc Brown was supposed to be a surprise, but the trailers ruined it.
Seth posted something snarky about it on twitter too.
I hate that.

I used to like it, but I’ve kind of grown to hate it.
I like the first on that Burton did, but after that they just completely went off the rails.

True.
Was he a main focus of THOR 2?

SpiderScooby: Kinda like the Amazing Spider-man 2 trailers that spoiled the ending, And I don’t just mean the death of Gwen.
I mean the FINAL SHOT OF THE MOVIE!

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I’ve never been a huge fan of Burton’s movies anyway, so I never minded it.

He had a pretty big role.
And going off the events of that movie, he’ll have one in Thor 3 as well.

ThatScoobyDoom: Which was…?

I like the first one, still the second best Bat movie IMO.

And what happened that makes you say that?
Just so folks know, that last MCU movie I saw was Iron Man 3 and I only saw it once in the theater.
So phase 2 is all new and unseen to me.

SpiderScooby: That shot of Spidey and Rhino coming at each other, about to fight?
That’s the final shot of the movie.

I’ll take Batman Begins, B:TAS, and Batman 66 any day of the week.

So Loki fakes his own death and is posing as Odin at the end of the movie.

ThatScoobyDoom: Not really a big spoiler though, is it?

I’ll take Begins and B:TAS, you can burn 66.

I think you told me that.
My question is what the ham and eggs happens to Odin?

Have we covered Avengers, or was there more you had to say about it?

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SpiderScooby: No, but it’s still pretty lame if you spoil the end of your movie.

Them fightin’ words, man!
Them fightin’ words!

Ah, but we don’t know.
We gotta wait till Ragnarok to find out.

Where to next?
Tony Stark 3 Iron Man 3?

ThatScoobyDoom: I guess.

Bring it on.
*grabs pom poms*

Well shit, was there any indication as to what happened to Odin?
Any point in the movie where you could conceive of Odin getting replaced?

Uuuuuuuh my memory of that is so fuzzy, if you don’t mind, I’d rather go to Agent Carter.
The Season finale is this coming Tuesday after all.
*note* And I missed the fuckin’ thing too! GGGGRRRRRRRRR!!! *end note*

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SpiderScooby: Only the one scene of Loki disguised as a guard walking up to Loki.

Okay, sure.
Agent Carter.
Fun show.
It’s nice revisiting that Captain America time period again.

ThatScoobyDoom: It’s nice to see Peggy getting the spotlight too, she was definetly one of my favorite First Avengers characters.
Now you know where this is going since we’ve had this conversation privately, but uh…did YOU happen to have any problems with the first few episodes?
<__>

SpiderScooby: You mean the whole men being sexist thing?
Didn’t bother me so much, but I do see where you’re coming from.

ThatScoobyDoom: This may be long, apologies all around.

It normally wouldn’t bother me either, but it’s so one sided, and how woman are forced to be portrayed these days is totally unfair to themselves and to reality in general.

If you portray woman today as a flatout villain you see articles and assholes pop out of the wood work acting as if no woman ever has treated anybody like shit.
Bullshit.
If a man can be a villain so can a woman.
So to have the double standard of woman can only be portrayed as smart, wonderful, well thought out characters but men can be portrayed how every is bullshit.

I know for a fact that woman were treated like shit back then, it’s well documented that they, like children, were supposed to be seen and not heard, but this penultimate episode had a beat that drives my point home.

***SPOILER ALERT***

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Okay, they spent the first few episodes having every man but the crippled dude, Howard, and Jarvis do everything but pat her on her ass and ask for a fuggin’ sangwidge.
Her boss was a piece of shit…but the penultimate episode has him throw himself out a window just to save everybody.
Now I don’t know about you, but after how he acted my very first reaction was “good, he was a piece of shit anyway.” and they were trying to give him a heroes send off.
Didn’t work.
Fuck that guy.

I hate that the PC Pussification of the 21st century has lead me to think like this about shit.
That people can’t just sit down and what a fake fuckin’ TV show or a movie, shut up, and enjoy it.

It’s as stupid as Marvel breaking up Spider-Man and MJ’s marriage because it was unrelatable.
I don’t watch and read superheroes to relate, I engage in it because I want to see some cool shit happen.
Not be preached to about some political stance.

End rant.

SpiderScooby: Well…I certainly haven’t been taking it that hard, lol.
I haven’t seen the most recent episode, so I can’t comment on that.
But whatshisface had a pretty nice redeeming moment a couple episodes back.

It does get grating after awhile though.

ThatScoobyDoom: Like I said, I notice this shit now because you always have these assholes whining about this shit from the other side.

Like, you hear these dumb assholes saying only women should write female characters.
If that’s the case then only men should write men characters.
And if I’m not mistaken a woman wrote Guardians Of The Galaxy…a movie about a mostly male cast. Hmm, if we’re going to play by those rules we need to burn every copy of Guardians (a movie I haven’t seen and desperately want to) because a woman wrote it.
It’s a completely fucking ludicrous notion perpetrated by attention seeking morons with far to much free time to think up and spew this brainless nonsense.

Which whatshisface?
We’re like J.K. Simmons in Extract at this point. “Tell Dinkus I want to talk to him.” Lol

SpiderScooby: I tend to ignore people like that.

“Ms. Brant, get me a violin.”

ThatScoobyDoom: You can’t miss it on twitter, man.

Wrong movie!!!

Despite how it sounds, I love this show.
I love Hayley Atwell, I love Peggy Carter, I love Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter.
One thing that legit bugs me is I wish they would have cast this dude as Jarvis for Iron Man.
I think it would have been a great piece of symmetry and a nice nod from Tony to this man, that I’m sure will end up being a big part of his life, to use his voice for his digi-Butler.

SpiderScooby: That’s why I block them!

Sorry, can’t help quoting J. Jonah.

As the voice of Jarvis you mean?

ThatScoobyDoom: I get tired of blocking everybody, best to take a break. Lol

Yeah, and that’s not me slamming Paul Bettany.
He does a great job as Jarvis, I just think it would have been a cool way to tie it all together.

What did you think about Howard Stark’s arc?

SpiderScooby: That’s one of my problems with the show.
Because the SSR should’ve stopped looking into Stark by the end of the series.

ThatScoobyDoom: Did you watch this weeks episode yet?
I don’t want to spoil it any more than I already did for you.

SpiderScooby: Oh no, I haven’t gotten the chance to yet.

ThatScoobyDoom: Say no more.

Just really quick, you’ve seen the Agent Carter One-Shot, how does this series compare to it?

SpiderScooby: They actually used shots from the one-shot in the pilot.
But techincally, it suppose to take place after the series.

ThatScoobyDoom: Really?
I know nothing of that short, can you give me a break down of it?

Given what you’ve seen of the series, would you want to see it come back next year?
Because I sure would.

SpiderScooby: She overhears the men talking about a mission, and she decides to take on said mission herself.
She kicks some ass.
That’s about the extent of it.

Sure.
Or if they want to do something entirely different, I’d be okay with that too.

ThatScoobyDoom: And it’s set after this?
After she kind of spends 8 episodes trying to prove that she can handle a mission?

I’d dig it just because I like the character.
I’d love to see her running around in the early days of the Marvel U kicking off shit that pays (or will eventually) of in the movies or on Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Is there anything else you want to say about this or anything else we talked about, man?

SpiderScooby: Yeah, I believe that’s what they said in interviews.
But if you really wanted, you could probably just ignore the One-Shot.

How would you like it if they picked it up for a full season?

No, but can’t wait to talk some Phase 2/Agents of SHIELD with you{even though you haven’t seen most of the films}.
We got Age of Ultron coming out and that’s gonna be amazing.

ThatScoobyDoom: Well, based on what you’ve told me, it seems they may have some slight continuity problems.

Hmm, that’s a tough question to answer.
I’d obviously love that because I have a mega crush on Atwell and I do like that character…but keeping it down to so few episodes makes it easier to concentrate and make the episodes better, ensuring a higher quality.
So if they do pick it up for another season my hope is that they don’t go 16-24 eps, but instead for 10-13.

How about the next time we talk MCU, we go indepth and you walk me through Phase 2, we talk Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., and we cover the One-Shots, sound good?

SpiderScooby: 13 episodes would be ideal.
How would you feel if each season took place decade by decade?

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s a cool idea, would really lead to more universe building than just sticking to the 40’s, but I think jumping ahead so much could well be a little jarring.
Maybe if they jumped say 5 years each season it would be better.
Because think about it, in the last 20 years we’ve had amazing developments to contend with that are hard to keep up with, imagine how it was back then for them to deal with huge leaps forward.

SpiderScooby: I don’t know, it worked for X-men: Days of Future Past.
But yeah, five years would probably be better.

ThatScoobyDoom: Which I haven’t seen…

But look, we already know that Howard tried introducing a flying car, and after season 1 of AoS, and succeeded, imagine all of the other techno stuff that could have happened!

SpiderScooby: Oh yeah, that reminds me.
I guess you could say the One-Shot takes place after the series because Howard calls Peggy about forming SHIELD.

ThatScoobyDoom: Why do you think it took so long for them to call it SHIELD?
Cause remember Coulson said in Iron Man “we’re working on the name”.

SpiderScooby: Good question.
I think if Marvel could change one thing, they would change that.
Cause at the time of Iron Man, it wasn’t certain if the MCU was gonna work.

ThatScoobyDoom: You’re probably right, the phone call may have been an attempt to retcon.

Listen man, thanks for coming back to do another one of these.
Was alot of fun, sir.

SpiderScooby: Can’t wait till next time.

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