This month we have another new kid on the block…NO, Not those fuckin’ 90’s relics with Marky Mark’s brother!
A dude you may know from the ScoobyAddicts.com board, one of the admins over there, or from his own site ScoobySnax1.Weebly.com, Doo/Wildwind Vampire is in the guest slot this month.
This conversation appears just as it was had, no edits have been made simply to maintain transparency and honesty.
For this Typecast he’ll be going by his twitter handle @ScoobySnaxCom, which will appear in red and link to his site http://scoobysnax1.weebly.com.
Now away we go!
ThatScoobyDoom: As is customary round these parts, lets start at the beginning.
How did you come to find the Doo?
@ScoobySnaxCom It actually started back all the way in the 80’s when USA was still airing Scooby on Saturday mornings.
I believe I watched my first episode when I was 4.
“Gaggle of Galloping Ghosts” was the first episode that I watched.
As a kid, I absolutely fell in love with Scooby and began watching more and more Scooby.
As of 2012, I’ve seen every Scooby-Doo episode, movie, and special ever made.
ThatScoobyDoom: Shit, that’s going back a ways in your life then.
Do you remember what it was specifically that hooked you in? Was it just “oooo, cartoon”, “hey look, puppy”, the spookiness of it, or some combination of those plus some others?
@ScoobySnaxCom: It was a mix of the spookiness/mystery aspects of the show, and the talking dog really was a cool concept to me back then!
I watched the show until I was about 13, then unfortunately the teenage years came and I felt embarrassed about still liking Scooby as I was becoming an adult.
I actually stopped watching for a while because I felt that I had to be “cool” and Scooby didn’t fit with that, so I completely abandoned the show for a while.
I didn’t start watching again until my senior year of high school when I realized I didn’t have to hide that I liked Scooby because I didn’t really care what anybody thought as much anymore.
In fact when I mentioned it to one of my friends, she mentioned that she also liked Scooby but hadn’t told anyone!
ThatScoobyDoom: Talking Dog peaked my interest too.
Alot of people seem to go through that with cartoons/comics/things that make them happy. Thankfully, from a young age, I was lucky enough to not really give a fuck what anybody thought of what I liked.
I remember some asshole in like 4th grade trying to mock me for having Scooby cupcakes for my birthday, I replied with some snide comment about his Mom not loving him enough to make him cupcakes.
He cried, I laughed.
I learned at a young age that people are dicks if you don’t fall in line with the rest of the sheep.
So yeah, I was fortunate enough to avoid that.
I’m basically the same dude now as I was then, I just say fuck alot more now.
I’ve never really had the chance to ask somebody this, do you regret that time away from the franchise when you look back now?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I really do regret 5 years away from the franchise, looking back, I wish I would have just kept watching the franchise and not gave a fuck what anyone thought, especially since I actually still liked the franchise.
But I forced myself not to like it because I was the kind of teenager that was like “oh my god, I MUST be popular! I will do ANYTHING to get people to like me!” It’s funny now because now I’m like the biggest nerd ever and just ignore the haters.
ThatScoobyDoom: As you bloody well should!
I’ve never understood the mentality of the bile spewing fuckwits.
If ya don’t like something, shit man, I’m sorry for ya, but to get up somebodies ass about it is nuts.
State your POV then fuck off, man.
So back then there wasn’t nearly as much going with the franchise as there is now, what fed your fandom?
Home Video wasn’t even super popular (not to mention, affordable) yet.
@ScoobySnaxCom: My level of fandom pretty much stayed the same until 2008, when I started getting involved with the Scooby communities online.
The first one I joined was ScoobyAddicts in July 2008.
I joined as “Doo” and started contributing in some of the threads, and really loved the forum.
It’s a great community and in fact is still my favorite Scooby forum (I even like it more than my own lol).
In 2010, ScoobyAddict, the owner of the forum, sent me a message on the forum asking me if I wanted to become an admin for the forum.
Of course, I accepted her offer.
In March, ScoobyAddict made both SpiderScooby and I admins on the forum.
I remember on my first day as admin I had to deal with a problem with a guy trying to get people to buy Scooby DVDs for him, and then send them to his house!
Luckily, it is pretty rare that we get spammers on the forum, the only couple I remember were this guy, someone who was demanding people to give him money, and someone who was asking people to hook up with her.
Oh, and there was the one guy who was being a total dick and harassing everyone on the forum for months.
It was so bad at one point that I had to even leave the forum for a few weeks because this guy was being such an ass, and his 2,000 posts were pretty much all harassment or bitchy remarks towards us admins.
I’ve really loved being a part of such a great community.
ScoobyAddict is amazing and I’ve enjoyed working SpiderScooby and j3h.
I’ve been on there 7 years as of a few weeks ago.
I actually even remember you signing up for the forum and being on for a few weeks!
ThatScoobyDoom: I think I told Scooby Addict this one of the times I talked too her, but yeah.
I was there from pretty much the beginning too, only I was a lurker.
Reading all the shit youse guys posted kinda helped me through some rough times.
I have no clue why I didn’t join, I guess cause I was relatively new to the net or somethin’.
Yeah, I’ve seen you all deal with a few like that.
SpiderScooby has dealt with some real fucktards in the comments on his site.
Jerk-offs jumping in trying to spoil the fun times and shit.
He had this one dill hole that just would not quit, he’d block his email and the dude would create more.
I swear, this numb nut got blocked no less than 8 times for just coming in and shitting on folks.
I think we lost a few folks because of it, not sure we’ve recovered them all.
I miss being able to post over there, I had a few short convos with SA there and a few other interactions and then that new design became the norm and fucked me outta posting.
My phones just can’t handle it.
Did you ever get any merch or anything back in the 80’s to feed your fandom?
Comics or anything?
@ScoobySnaxCom: We’ve had someone similar over at ScoobyAddicts recently, he’s created 6 accounts!
We’ve blocked IPs, global ID, email, everything, but he still finds a way to get back on and post these annoying videos.
I guess there’s always going to be idiots like that trying to ruin people’s fun.
Back in the 80’s I did buy a bunch of the Scooby comics, but I believe that was the only merchandise I bought.
Do you still have any of them?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I do have some really old ones, but haven’t been able to find them!
At first, I wasn’t buying Scooby comics at all, I just watched the series.
I think I might have been 10 when I got my first Scooby comic.
I began buying various Scooby VHSes in the 90s and early 2000s.
First one I ever bought was Scooby-Doo Meets the Harlem Globetrotters, which happens to have my all-time favorite episode “The Lochness Mess” on it.
Do you have a favorite Scooby episode/movie at all?
ThatScoobyDoom: My Ma thinks she may have more of the comics from the 70’s, but she’s yet to find them.
The comics really are what kept me a Scooby fan since, in the early days on my fandom, there wasn’t much beyond the DTV’s and the Gelsey books.
The theatrical movie was still a few years off, still no series, so every 1st Wednesday of the month I got me a 22 page fix.
Oh yes, I have that tape and I think I have the DVD release too.
I have a box full of all of my Scooby VHS’s next to my bed.
I’ve never been able to narrow it down to just 1 episode, but I do have a list of favorites from different series.
WAY: Haunted House Hang-Up
NS-DM: The Johnathan Winters ep
13 Ghosts: The comic strip ep
Pup: The Comic Con ep
WNS-D: A Scooby-Doo Halloween & A Scooby-Doo Christmas
S-D:MI: Mystery Solvers Club State Finals
As for favorite movie, still to this day, the first Scooby movie I ever saw remains my favorite.
It’s a masterpiece, plus…come on, Tim Curry is fuckin’ awesome!
How about yourself?
You have a list beyond Lochness Mess?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I also have tons of the Gelsey books!
I think 60 if I remember right.
These are my faves by series:
WAY: Night of Fright is No Delight
NSDM: Lochness Mess
Scooby-Doo Show: Vampire Bats & Scaredy Cats (gotta love how dark this episode gets!)
Scrappy 1979: The Ghoul, the Bat and the Ugly
Scrappy shorts: Fit Night out for Bats
New SD and Scrappy Show: Wedding Bell Boos
NSDMysteries: Halloween Hassle at Dracula’s Castle
13 Ghosts: Scoobra Kadoobra (although Zomba was really a cool looking villain!)
Pup: Babysitter from Beyond
What’s New: SD Halloween
Get A Clue: Mystery of the Missing Mystery Solvers
SDMI: Theater of Doom
My favorite movie is probably a tie between Ghoul School and Boo Brothers.
I also love the Jonathan Winters ep that you mentioned!
ThatScoobyDoom: I’m guessing you’re including the ones outside of the Scooby-Doo Mysteries series?
Cause there were only…34-36 of those, but he wrote a few of the ones for the mail away book club and a few other series.
When I say “Gelsey books” I’m refering to the Mysteries series since that was all him, the other shit was always so damn hard to find for some reason.
I got most of those from Walmart.
I can’t really say for most of the Scrappy series because alot of that isn’t in DVD so I haven’t seen it in years.
The Richie Rich shorts are…unbearable for me though.
I remember being okay with them when that set came out but now? Woofah!
I like all of those Scrappy movies, Boo Brothers, Ghoul School, Reluctant Werewolf, but I never consider those movies.
I guess since they were before the DTV shit so I just call ’em specials. Lol
Which of the DTV movies is your favorite?
Lets dig in on those, starting with Ghoul School.
Do you remember when you first saw that?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I’m including all the ones Gelsey wrote, I think I have 20 or so of his that were outside of the Scooby-Doo Mysteries.
I think I bought the hard to find ones from a used bookstore.
Why don’t you like the Scrappy shorts?
Is it just because of the overbearingness of Scrappy, the real monsters, the gang not being in them, or something else?
My favorite DTV is Zombie Island, just cause it was so much darker and change from the normal mystery formula.
I’ve always thought of the Scrappy specials and Goes Hollywood as movies, but I think I’m one of the only fans that foes.
I never saw Ghoul School until they released it on DVD until 2002.
ThatScoobyDoom: I got the first 2 books from the book club out of a scholastic book order (that’s also how I got the first 4 Mysteries books), only one of those was Gelsey, and I didn’t have money the next month to get the next 2 books so I missed ’em.
I almost tried getting back into it a few months later, but didn’t for some reason.
Do you have a pic of the other books?
I’d like ta see what I’m missing.
It’s a mixture of Scrap being a huge pain in the ass and the format.
There was no mystery.
It was just the guys running into a creep then running away.
Just seems like there’s no point beyond wasting time, IMO.
And keep in mind, I actually like Scrappy.
I would probably like it more if I’d seen it before Witch’s Ghost.
Not that I don’t like it, mind you.
But ya dance with the one that brought ya, ya know what I mean? Those first 4 DTV’s are damn near perfect, just golden!
I guess it’s because they were TV specials, they just feel like long episodes to most folks.
Kinda like the What’s New era DTV’s.
Strangely I don’t look at The Mystery Begins as a Special though…I have weird lines, dude. Lol
Wasn’t the VHS out before that?
I could swear I saw it before 2002.
@ScoobySnaxCom: The VHS for Ghoul School was out in March 2001, and the movie was aired on TV in 1988.
I did miss the “mystery” aspect of the show in the Scrappy shorts, but I guess I tolerated it since it was Scooby.
The only thing I actually hate of Scooby is the Arabian Nights special…that was just…total shit.
Scooby was in like 5 min of the 69 minute special.
Do you have a fave of the Scrappy specials at all?
Fuck, did they air it on Cartoon Network back before it was out on VHS?
It’s hard for me to believe that Special has only been in my life for 14 years, man.
I think that’s on of the many reasons I hate Get A Clue also.
No franchise, filmmaker, band, or anything has my loyalty that hard, almost everything has stumbled at some point in my view.
Star Wars has Attack Of The Clones, Kevin Smith has Chasing Amy, AC/DC has Fly On The Wall, and Scooby has those shorts, GAC, and a few DTV’s.
I try to put a positive spin on it (I think I said this when I talked with SA the first time) but it’s that shitty stuff that makes me appreciate the good so much more.
Yes, I actually defended that special to SpiderScooby a few years back…I recently rewatchd it…I must have been higher than a kite when I defended that fuckin’ thing.
Shit, they must have been high when they made it cause it sucks harder than a vacuum at a hooker convention.
No, not at all.
I’m not a huge fan of Boo Brother’s, but even at it’s worst it’s easily watchable.
The other 2 are solid as a rock.
Reluctant Werewolf is probably the one I’ve seen the most, but Ghoul School is so fuckin’ metal.
The Universal Monsters, come on?
What’s not to like.
@ScoobySnaxCom: I think they aired Ghoul School sometime in the 90s on CN.
Wow, you defended Arabian Nights?
What’s there even to defend?
I’ve always loved Boo Brothers…probably because it got us back to the mystery element in the show, and not just the guys running away for 7 minutes.
Revolta and the Universal monsters are awesome in this movie!!
I think that alone has made this my favorite Scooby movie.
Besides those probably the Grim Creeper and Sybella are my favorite characters.
ThatScoobyDoom: They had to of!
I saw it years before and remembered the animation being okay.
Upon rewatching it I saw that everybody was way off model, the story was pure shit (not to mention derivative as hell of many other things), and as cheap as Hanna-Barbera Productions notoriously are, this was beyond the norm.
I think I was just such a huge fan of H-B I was blinded to how horrible it was.
Again, I dig it, but I think with the Boo Brothers being the 3 Stooges as ghosts was a minus for me.
I’ve never been a huge fan of the Stooges, I mean I can definetly respect what they did and their place in comedy and comedy history, hell we wouldn’t have Tom & Jerry without them, but it’s just not really my bag, man.
I liked fish out of water aspect for Shag and Scoob too.
Stuck in a swampy hole in the middle of nowhere amongst these creatures that the just think are a quirky bunch.
Ripe for laughs!
@ScoobySnaxCom: The animation was fine for me in Arabian Nights but the plot line and the lack of Shaggy and Scooby just turned it into a terrible movie for me.
The 3 Stooge ghost thing never really bothered me much, but I’ve heard the argument before for why folks didn’t like it.
The southern stereotype thing with Billy Bob never actually bothered me either, but pretty much anyone who’s said they don’t like the movie has said this was the reason.
ThatScoobyDoom: It’s hard not to notice the animation for me, Shag looks kinda puffy and Scoob is a bit plain looking.
If not for the voices you could believably say they were new characters.
I wouldn’t say it bothered me that they are Stooges, it’s just not my cup of whiskey.
Billy Bob and his lady don’t bother me either, I know some get offended by some shit like that but that ain’t me.
I’ll give it up to that special though, they did something new for the franchise and it works for the most part.
Is there any special, movie, or episode you watch yearly?
@ScoobySnaxCom: Nah, I’ve never been one to be offended by the Southern stereotype thing either.
It’s a cartoon, and it’s not like they’re saying all Southerners are like that.
I agree that Boo Brothers does work, I don’t have anything that I don’t like about it.
I watch A Scooby-Doo Christmas every December and A Scooby-Doo Halloween and Goblin King every year on Halloween week.
I actually never realized that a lot of people hated Goblin King until I made a thread about it on ScoobyAddicts.
Almost everyone on there said it sucked, but I think it’s the best DTV besides Zombie Island.
What about you, got any yearly episodes or movies that you watch?
ThatScoobyDoom: No stereotypes bug me really, I think far too many people take far too much pleasure in being offended.
I watch A Scooby-Doo Christmas and Halloween every year on those respective holidays, for 10+ years running at this point.
I actually did watch Goblin King a few years in a row on Halloween.
That is a strange movie that I really need to be in the mood for.
I definetly don’t hate it, but I would put it on the lower end of the spectrum.
I like real monsters, but that was a step too far for me.
It was trying to be a bit too magical and I think that did it more harm than good.
I think it would have made a better 10-13 episode mini-series than a movie because it had too much going on, too much variety in theme and monsters, too much happening to do it all justice.
I also have taken to watching the pilot and TMB on September 13th every year.
Makes for a good celebration of the anniversary for me.
@ScoobySnaxCom: I’ve watched Goblin King every year since it came out on Halloween, the others I think I missed one year cause I had some other crap going on.
Wow, I’ve never thought of the mini series idea for Goblin King but that would actually be pretty cool!
It might have given it less of a shitty reputation if WB would have done it that way instead.
I used to watch Zombie Island on Halloween every year but stopped for a while.
I did watch it again though last year because I was writing a fanfic on what would have happened if the gang stayed broken up after the events of Zombie Island.
ThatScoobyDoom: I think it would’ve definetly worked in it’s favor.
As it is it’s just too much at once, it needs more time to breath.
It would have been a good way to bridge the gap between GAC & SD:MI, even if it was only 6 episodes.
It would’ve given them 40 minutes more to do they story justice.
I think Ross used to watch ZI on Halloween, it’s a good movie for that time of year.
So is Witch’s Ghost, both have a good fall feel.
Warm color palate.
Did you ever finish that story?
Oh, I just thought of this, I try to watch Big Scare In The Big Easy (the Mardi Gras What’s New ep) every Mardi Gras too.
That chase song that was in the first Theatrical movie fits it really well!
@ScoobySnaxCom: I ended up putting 2 parts of that story up on my site, and started writing the third part but never finished it yet.
That’s a really unique tradition, I don’t think I’ve heard of anyone doing that before.
I’ve always thought the chase song (Man with the Hex) fit well with the episode too.
ThatScoobyDoom: Link ’em up, foo!
I never woulda guessed that’d be unusual. Lol
Seems an obvious choice to me.
I wanna ask you something I think I asked SA, what would you say is your favorite piece of Scooby merch you own?
That’s a tough question!
I’d have to say the older 80’s Scooby comics.
I wish I could find them though!
What about you?
Do you have an outline that you’re working from or are you just winging it, letting it flow forth, and seeing what happens?
My answer remains the same, my collection of Gelsey Mysteries series books or the WAY complete series set.
That set is simply fucking amazing in it’s packaging alone.
@ScoobySnaxCom: I’m actually just completely winging it, writing down whatever comes into my head.
I do a read through before I finish the story and take out whatever parts I feel that could be done without.
I’ve seen and read a few of the stories you’ve written on your site.
I’m curious, do you do something similar to what I just described or do you have a different method?
I’ve never actually bought the complete WAY set!
I have the Season 1 and 2 box set, and then the Season 3 one separately, so I didn’t buy it because I didn’t want to spend money on episodes I already had.
ThatScoobyDoom: I do pretty much the same as you.
Usually I have an opening line that pops into my head and go from there.
I have a Batman universe video that will be up for a little bit by the time this gets posted called Confessions Of A Two-Faced Joker that starts “Yet another explosion rocked the building, same as they always do”.
I’ll go deeper into it when I do the break down of that video in a few months, but that line popped into my head along with a line about the walls being spider webbed with cracks.
I had no intention of that being about Batman but it just kinda turned that way over the 5 days I wrote it.
If I work from an outline it usually cripples me cause I try to stick to it, I grow to like the idea and put so much into the outline that by the time the outline is done I just lose intrest.
But then, like with the Channel Surfing videos I do bare bones segment breakdowns then let the segments percolate for a while and build in my head until finally I get a pencil in hand and it all bursts forth.
So I try to just let it flow and see where it takes me.
That 2-part (so far) short story that I have posted was just a challenge to myself to write something completely fucked up and deranged.
I wrote it in my email and sent it to myself, part 1 went through like 3 revisions before I posted it, nothing big it was mostly slight rewordings to make it seem creepier.
I had Part 3 over half done and saved as a draft and my email deleted it.
So now I gotta start from scratch on the one, thankfully I remember the 1 really disgusting part.
Hope that answers your question. Lol
I think it’s probably not worth it if you already have both sets, but I never got the 1st set so it was infinetly worth it too me.
The bonus disc has some cool shit, but nothing groundbreakingly mindbending that you need to rebuy it.
But it is pretty fuckin’ sweet.
@ScoobySnaxCom: The same thing happen to me if I try to stick to an outline, I get so obsessed with sticking to the outline that I feel like I can’t write what I want because it doesn’t fit with the outline, so I just stop writing it out of boredom.
That sucks about your draft getting deleted!
I had that happen once with my site, I spent like 4 hours working on the character page, then forgot to save it and logged out.
When I logged back in the next day, everything was gone.
I’ve always been the person who buys all the cheap volume sets before the larger, better set comes out.
For example, I bought all the SDMI volumes and then like 2 weeks later they announced a complete season set.
ThatScoobyDoom: Yep, that’s pretty much it.
I tend to overbloat the outlines sometimes too, perfect example is that Superman story here on the site.
I had such big plans for it and it just collapsed under its own weight.
I saved it too, but my phone’s just an asshole.
I did that with What’s New and the burned me, I didn’t do it with Pup and it worked out.
SD:MI was just too fuckin’ awesome for me to be able to resist buying the 4 ep sets, but thankfully they moved on to 13 ep sets so I didn’t feel like they screwed us over by doing season sets.
I’d like the season sets, but I’m good with the other for now.
So tell me how your site came about.
What prompted you to launch?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I was looking around the Internet one day for different Scooby sites and saw that most of the Scooby sites had all their content copied from other sites (mainly ScoobyAddicts, ScoobyFan.net, and Wikipedia).
It just made me think that there really aren’t that many Scooby sites out there that aren’t copied.
I thought about it for a while, and decided that I wanted to create my own site that gave people my viewpoint and take on the show, not what someone copied off Wikipedia.
A 10 year old could do that.
I think you and ScoobyAddict talked about this, but I found some sites that were literally an exact copy of ScoobyAddicts.
So in June 2014, I began constructing and making pages on the site throughout the Summer.
On September 3, 2014, the site went live.
I just mentioned casually on the ScoobyAddicts forum that I had created my own Scooby site.
That next day, I logged back on to ScoobyAddicts only to find that I had like 15 private messages.
I opened them all up, they were all hate messages about my site.
In fact, not a single positive one.
I had a few accuse me of trying to upstage ScoobyAddict and said I was trying to steal everybody off of her site.
One called me a slimeball and said that I shouldn’t show my face on the forum anymore.
The rest said “why would an admin on this forum feel the need to create a site AND a forum?” which made me pissed, because SpiderScooby is an admin has both a site and forum and no one’s ever said anything to him for that.
How is my situation any different from his?
I had already had a shitty day before I even came on the forum, so this didn’t help.
What made it even worse is that all the members who sent me those horrible messages were all people I respected and liked.
I remember ScoobyAddict or one of the other admins asking me for names of the people who sent me those messages so they could be dealt with, but for whatever reason I decided to protect those guys and refused to give out names.
Maybe it’s cause I still had some respect for them, I don’t know, but to this day I’ve never told anybody who sent the messages.
At this point I felt outraged and hurt that people would feel that I would make the site just to upstage ScoobyAddict, because it simply wasn’t true.
I looked on the main (public) forum, and saw that one of my fellow admins had posted what I took to be a somewhat rude message about my site.
At this point, I couldn’t take any more.
I’m not at all proud of this next part.
In response, I posted a message that was like 10-paragraphs long publicly challenging him.
I’m not gonna say what I posted, but it was basically 10 paragraphs of bitchy comments towards him.
If I had to paraphrase, the message was basically saying “fuck off.” At the end of the message, I was so angry I said ” So you’re saying I’m not wanted on this forum anymore? Fine, then I’m outta here” or something along that line.
The message was so embarrassing I can’t even read it again.
Of course, I could never leave the forum, but I actually didn’t log on for 3 weeks and considered leaving and just moving on.
Words can’t describe how embarrassed I was about posting that message for everyone to see.
We both apologized to each other after those 3 weeks and have become friendly again, which I’m really glad about.
I kinda got off topic there so I’ll get back to the site here now.
The site has been pretty quiet since it started, I only have one regular commenter on there, and I’m really grateful that he has been such a great supporter of ScoobySnax.com.
I made him an admin on my forum, and he’s been a really great help!
I’m so grateful for Scoob16, without him, my site would be pretty much dead.
I did have another admin, but I haven’t heard from her since last October.
But she’s been busy with college, so I completely understand.
I’m still working on a few things on my site, in fact I finished the movie guide while I was waiting for you to email me back the first night we started this, but I still have a lot to work on.
ThatScoobyDoom: I’d say the reason SS hasn’t had much flak about his site would be because he’s had it since before most of those folks even signed up for SA’s board.
As for his forum, he basically shut that down because nobody besides me used it.
But it’s funny, when I first saw your site, never once did I look at it and think “who does this asshole think he is?”.
I saw you weren’t just copying shit from SA & SS so I thought it was great!
I’ve not made it a secret about my disappointment with WB and their general lack of marketing in regard to Scooby.
So the way I see it, even if you reach one person, it’s fuckin’ worth it, man.
Because I’ll tell ya, the general public doesn’t really have a clue that Scooby is still rolling strong.
And since you bring up people being dickhead, I said this in either my WrestleMania Mystery defense article or in my review of the movie, but what is up with Scooby fans?
The Internet Wrestling Community (IWC) is a notoriously pissy, closeminded, and just plain bitchy bunch, but since WM was announced I’ve noticed some segments of Scooby fandom are just as bad if not worse.
Some of these folks are just too fuckin’ bitchy for their own good.
Snapping at people over small shit that doesn’t matter.
My first guess was that most of them ar kids who don’t want change, but I learned very quickly from reading some of the vitriol on SA’s board and SS’s site that most of these fuckers are near my age, mid 20’s.
As we talked about earlier, just gotta learn to ignore these dick heads.
What are your plans for the future of your site?
Where are you hoping to reach?
@ScoobySnaxCom: Yeah, way too many people just copy others’ content and then call it their’s.
One of the sites that I visited had an episode guide that had a message at the top that said “I hate people who just copy stuff from Wikipedia, so I never do that, I write my own things.” When I looked at the summaries, all of them were copied from Wikipedia.
Better yet, a few of the summaries were ones that I wrote and put on Wikipedia!
I’d never read your WrestleMania defense post but I just read it, and I totally agree with you there.
I’ve found it surprising too that the people are in their mid-20s.
A few though you can tell are pretty young, on SA’s board I’ve had a 10 year message me like 20 times asking why we’ve banned him, when in reality he’s just lost his password every time.
I think he’s created at least 10 accounts.
I’m going to leave Weebly eventually and get my own domain.
Weebly was more of just a starting point for me to get some of the info I wanted down.
My site is slowly becoming one of the more well-known Scooby sites, which I’m glad about.
I’ve actually gotten multiple emails through my contact form recently saying how much people love my site.
I’ve been glad people haven’t been abusing the contact form, I know SA was having problems with some people abusing her contact form for a while and I was worried people would do that to mine too.
No one did it yet, except one person who was oddly trying to convince me that P. Diddy, Kanye West and Jay-Z had teamed up to sell insurance together.
I think I might have posted it on Twitter just cause it was actually pretty hilarious so you may have seen it.
I’m glad that the odd rumors that I was trying to upstage the other Scooby sites has stopped.
I don’t understand why people believed that, but like we’ve been talking about there are some people who are asses out there.
I’ve even considered asking SS and SA to collaborate on a Scooby project together between our sites for Scooby fans, and probably will sometime this year.
I don’t think I mentioned this before, but I’ve also started writing Scooby quizzes for Funtrivia.com in addition. http://www.funtrivia.com/profile/Ascoobus.html
ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, it’s beyond frustrating that these assholes wholesale steal from folks just because they’re to damn lazy to be original.
It’s a hard thing to police to because unless somebody points it out too you there’s a good chance you’ll never even know which is frightening too me.
That’s gotta be a pain in the ass. Lol
I’d like to get my own as well before somebody snatches it up but I lack the money and knowledge as to how to go about it.
I’m not the most tech savvy.
One of the things that impressed me about you and your site is that you’ve actually named ScoobyFan.net and ScoobyAddicts.com in a section or 2 of your site.
I think if you were just trying to steal their thunder you’d be a fuckin’ idiot to even think about mentioning their sites.
Why promote the perceived competition?
So you got points from the start for that in my book.
Oh yes, I saw that.
Nice, I’ll hafta check that out!
What are you expecting from the future of the franchise?
@ScoobySnaxCom: It’s even more of a pain in the ass seeing as he’s been doing it consistently since August of 2012. Lol
I’ve even said that I like being a part of their sites as much, if not more, than my own on multiple pages of my site, so you’d have to be a complete idiot to think that I’d say that and still try to compete with them.
I’d like another series like SDMI, that was amazing!
I’m looking forward to Be Cool too!
My most sincere hope for the franchise is that it will continue to evolve and produce new series and movies despite the somewhat closed minded fans.
I also hope they move on a bit with the Fraphne thing.
I’ve seen a lot of (what I assume to be) teenage girls hating every single thing that’s not Fraphne related and saying stuff like “FRAPHNE IS LIFE! SLAYYY ME FRAPHNE!!!!” I don’t know if you have seen the latest KISS movie so I won’t ruin it if you haven’t, but there’s a lot of Daphne being obsessed with Starchild and Fred being jealous.
I wouldn’t mind if they did the Fraphne storyline occasionally, but it’s become constant now and it’s getting a little annoying.
What are you hoping for the franchise?
ThatScoobyDoom: Oh good god! Lol
My site doesn’t compete with them at all, but I do feel a wee bit of guilt in how this site has distracted me from helping Ross with promotion, ideas, and writing over there.
But, and I think I told SA something similar to this, I think the lot of us can and should group together and do shit like this to help one another out.
As we’ve seen with Scooby recently with the WWE & KISS movies, cross promotion works!
I said this on twitter back when it was announced, but I was open minded about it up until they announced the new Velma.
I’ve never been a huge fan of that chick.
The hipster shit about their clothes mixed with her have made me okay with the fact that I’m gonna miss it.
I’m not gonna harp on my dislike of her or the series, I hope it does well.
But everything I’ve seen just makes me think it ain’t for me.
I’m not into the relationship nonsense, it’s one of the things that caused Curse Of The Lake Monster to suck.
I think how it was handled in the first 4 DTV’s where Fred and Daph were kinda assumed to be together and there wasn’t much attention shined on it worked best.
What I would like is a live-action series.
I think if you got somebody like Tony Cervone involved to spearhead it and actually put forth a great effort it could rock.
And if not that, I’d like another hour long series.
Given how TV animation has changed in pacing and whatnot, it’d be nice to see more complex stories.
And if they go full NSDM with it it’d be brilliant promotion in this social media landscape to get known “stars” (even if they use people that I don’t necessarily like) on who have a following and can get the word out.
I also wanna know what’s up with the theatrical movie/movies?
(*Editors Note* Since we did this Typecast, Tony Cervone has been announced as the director for an animated Scooby-Doo film to be released on September 21st 2018.
You can read more details here or on @ScoobySnaxCom’s site here)
@ScoobySnaxCom: I don’t really know that much about Kate or her career.
I saw her on Big Bang as Raj’s girlfriend, but that’s about it.
I’ve always been a really optimistic kind of person, so I’ll definitely give the series a try.
The designs look very weird though.
I’m okay with the relationship stuff if they handle it right.
But with SDMI’s first 22 episodes, it wasn’t handled well at all.
Lake Monster just seemed like they were trying to copy SDMI.
I liked how it was handled in the first DTVs too, they were together but it wasn’t thrown in your face like they did in SDMI.
A live action series would be cool, especially if Tony Cervone was involved.
I would love to see another New Scooby-Doo Movies, I really liked everything about that series.
Nothing more’s been announced with the live action movie, so I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
There supposedly is going to be a 22-minute special in LEGO animation later this year.
ThatScoobyDoom: I’ve seen her on that and on a few other things in bit parts, I wasn’t impressed.
The designs are fine by me though.
I’m with ya there, I really wanted to hold Velma’s head under til the bubbles stopped in season 1.
I read an interview SA did with 1 of the producers (I think) and he tried explaining why they did it, but in the end it was a misstep. She was just too overbearing.
Love sick Daphne and the oblivious, dullard, and some what idiot savant Fred being clueless to her advances was a touch too much as well.
I love that series, it’s by far my favorite, but they had quick a few kinks in the first season.
I think it’s got great potential, they could adapt some old eps and work in a storyline or new details to give you something old with something new.
Make it familiar but different.
And it’s been some time, makes me wonder if it’s even still in the cards over at the WB.
Yes, that Lego special is coming next month when the Lego sets are officially released.
I keep saying it, but holy hell I hope this shit does well enough for us to get a Lego Scooby game!
@ScoobySnaxCom: I’ve gotten more used to the designs as we’ve seen more pics, but at first, it was a bit of a shock.
I agree, the first season was very flawed.
Glad they took that stuff out for the second season.
The Daphne/Fred thing didn’t annoy me as much in this series.
Wait, next month?
I don’t think I heard about that!
We are getting Scooby in the LEGO Dimensions game that’s coming out September 27.
ThatScoobyDoom: I mean, I was surprised at how different it looked, but I got over it quickly.
I like seeing new interpretations of the characters, it’s refreshing.
The style of the opening from Abra would have made a cool series.
I think it was more understandable because of everything Fred was going through, but even so it did get a bit soap operay.
I’m 90% sure that’s when it’s coming. (*Editors Note* I was dead wrong, no word yet on when the special will be released)
That sounds pretty freakin’ sweet too!
Those type of games confuse my old man brain, but sounds cool.
@ScoobySnaxCom: I got over it too, as I did with Get A Clue.
Although I hope they make this series better than Get a Clue, I didn’t mind that series too much.
It certainly was my least favorite Scooby series though.
I’m really excited for both the special, the sets and the game!
Not sure if you are a Simpsons watcher but I liked the style they did the “Brick Like Me” Lego episode in, and would like to see something similar happen with this Scooby special.
ThatScoobyDoom: I couldn’t get over GAC, it had to many hurdles to jump.
Is there anything Scooby you find unwatchable?
I’ve not been a regular simpsons watcher in years, but I saw that.
That was great!
But I think the special will be more in line with what the Star Wars specials have been.
It’d be great if they did a series of specials because it seems most don’t really like the current DTV specials, I’ve only seen the Olympic and Christmas ones but I liked both.
@ScoobySnaxCom: Arabian Nights sucked, and I can’t watch Ghastly Goals because of the horrible animation quality, but other than that I don’t dislike anything Scooby related.
Although Music of the Vampire was very poor in my opinion, in fact that’s the only Scooby movie that I’ve only watched one time, but it’s not completely unwatchable.
What about you, is there anything Scooby that you can’t stand?
Spooky Games and Haunted Holidays were good, Spooky Scarecrow was okay but Shaggy and Scooby were just running away from the scarecrow for like half the special, so that annoyed me a bit.
Mecha Mutt was great, Ghastly Goals looked like they spent 3 cents animating it.
I haven’t seen Beach Beastie yet.
ThatScoobyDoom: We kinda talked about mine, but GAC, The shorts, & Arabian Nights are all on my list.
I wasn’t a big fan of Phantosaur either.
Music Of The Vampire has always had me conflicted I’m not a musical fan so it had that against it from the jump, but the animation on it is simply fuckin’ amazing.
The story is pretty weak, but I liked that they stretched and tried something new.
I don’t like it much but I gotta give it up, that movie did cool interesting shit.
It was also the last movie (with the exception of WrestleMania Mystery) that I was able to get so I’ve seen it alot.
What about Moon Monster (Mega Mondo Mushy Master Munchausen Mushroom) Madness?
I haven’t seen it, but not many liked that, where do you fall on it?
I only saw Haunted Holidays on YT, but I liked it more.
I think Spooky Games was really good but I think not having the ability to use the Olympics hurt it, they were trying to cash in on the Olympics but didn’t want to pay the licensing fee or whatever the case may be.
If it had been animated better would Ghastly Goals rank higher?
I fall in the “meh” category for Moon Monster Madness.
The plot was thin and predictable and I didn’t really find any of the jokes funny (they all seemed more for young kids).
The part where Daphne was slapping her hair in Velma’s face for nearly a full minute made me cringe.
Although the villain and some of the plot was good.
I felt like the storyline, villain and mystery could have been great…they just went the wrong way with it.
Slightly higher only.
The plot was still extremely thin and it felt like they put ten minutes into it.
Everything was predictable and it felt like the plot could have gone somewhere but never did.
ThatScoobyDoom: I think it’s interesting… definitely weird, but interesting none the less…that they went to space.
As shitty as every makes it seem I’ll gladly watch it some day if I can.
Same goes for Ghastly.
Would you agree these last 15 or so years have been packed with some of the best Scooby we’ve ever gotten?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I’m guessing your one of the people who doesn’t like to watch the “non-licenced” versions of the movies online?
These are all online for free and I know many Scooby fans have been watching them that way.
I would say so, I think the franchise is going stronger than it’s ever been.
We got Zombie Island, SDMI and many other great DTV movies that we’ve never gotten before.
ThatScoobyDoom: I can’t watch them with my cheap phone, but even if I could I probably wouldn’t.
Something about online shit like that rubs me the wrong way.
But I never had a problem with burning a CD or something like that.
I guess it’s the global scale of it all that bothers me.
Unless it was on YT, I’d watch it there…it’s complicated. Lol
I wish we could get some more books though.
@ScoobySnaxCom: Ummm..ok. Lol.
Why’s YouTube so different for you?
It’s still technically illegal.
I miss the Gelsey books!
In college I used to look forward to them coming out!
ThatScoobyDoom: I don’t know, man! Lol
It’s the exact same thing, but YT just doesn’t seem as bad for some reason to me.
Like I said, it’s complicated.
Me too, so much!
Those were my introduction to Scooby, so of course I miss them.
But I’d love it if they’d get him to do some 200 pagers.
Basically what I want is a novel series that’s the prose equivalent of SD:MI.
A deep, layered, multi-part story.
SD:MI gave me everything I wanted from a series, now I just need a book series that’s similar and I can die a happy man.
@ScoobySnaxCom: Introduction meaning you read them before you saw any of the TV series?
I had always wished for 200-300 pagers too!
I loved the 60 pagers but I always wanted more of a storyline.
Throw in some SDMI, and that would be really damn amazing!
Hey, do you have that never before released Gelsey book “Scooby-Doo’s High Flying Adventure?” I managed to get that one a few years ago.
Scooby-Doo and the Howling Wolfman was what made me a Scooby fan!
That has been my dream for many years.
Because as much as I love TV, Film, & Comics, my true love lies with Novels.
And I love Media Tie-In novels.
MONK, Psych, Burn Notice, Smallville, Star Wars, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Batman, Superman, these are all great franchises that I’ve been a huge fan of for years but some of my favorite experiences with these franchises have been through novels.
Yes I do!
And I actually shouldn’t have it!
One of the only things I liked about my school experience.
I was in 4th or 5th grade and my teacher (like all but my Kindergarten and 1st grade teachers) was a lazy asshole that didn’t want to handle the Scholastic Book Orders, she had a stack of the fuckin’ things but never passed them out.
One of the mom’s of a girl in my class had told the teacher that all she had to do was pass them out and then if anybody wanted to order anything just fill out the forms and give them to her daughter.
Teacher was too lazy to even do that.
So I asked her if I could go through them and shockingly she said yes.
Some how she had some for a grade or 2 below us too.
So anyway, I went through them and spotted that and I have almost a photographic memory when it comes to book covers and shit and I jumped on that sum bitch.
I cherish that book to this day, because due to this harpies laze I landed an extremely rare book!
How’d you get it?
Used bookstore or online?
That’s really cool!
I had a 2nd grade teacher like that…in fact she treated me (and the rest of the kids) so terribly that I remember coming home begging my parents to get me out of her class.
Within the first week of school I got out of that class and ended up getting a great teacher.
I remember that at the end of the school year she was fired for verbally mistreating a kid with autism, and quickly replaced.
I got it online.
The guy selling it didn’t even know it was rare, so I ended up getting it for $0.01!
That was really great to get such a rare book for so cheap!
ThatScoobyDoom: Through out my school career, with the exception of K and my 2nd 1st grade teacher, I never had great experiences with teachers.
Most of them were bitter old bitches that were stuck in an endless loop.
2nd grade on it was horrible.
There was 1 4th grade teacher that was an awesome old lady but she retired at the end of my 3rd grade year so I got stuck with yet another crabass.
I think the book orders were slightly below retail, but not that cheap!
Did you happen to get those 3 novels that came out a few years ago by Kate Howard?
The Hotel Of Horrors, The Frozen Giant, & The Haunting Of Pirate Cove?
@ScoobySnaxCom: I also ended up getting free shipping as part of the Amazon Prime program!
I never did manage to get those.
Someday I will though!
Do you have those?
I read the first one, Hotel Of Horrors, and may have posted a review somewhere.
It was actually pretty good.
I wish they woulda published more than 3, even though I haven’t read the other 2.
@ScoobySnaxCom: Was it as good as the Gelsey books?
Some of those “Scooby-Doo & You” books not written by Gelsey weren’t as interesting.
ThatScoobyDoom: As good?
Probably not, but that’s not to say it’s not good.
I mean, the quality of these books is alot cheaper, not the crisp white pages and colored art of the Mysteries series.
But the first is good as I recall, held my attention.
Worth the time I think.
Well sir, is there anything else you wanna say about Scooby and the gang?
@ScoobySnaxCom: Yeah, I didn’t like the downgraded quality of the Scooby-Doo and You series either.
Which one of these have you read?
I really hope that Be Cool Scooby-Doo and the WWE movie are as good as the previous series and movies!
Thank you so much for having me, this has been fun!
ThatScoobyDoom: That’s always a problem for me because I don’t think they dropped the price.
But when DC started printing the Scooby comic on better paper you better believe they raised the price on that motherfucker from $2.50 to $2.99.
I have The Case Of The Glowing Alien and The Case Of The Bigfoot Beast, which are supposed to be the first 2 but I have no idea.
I haven’t read them in at least 10 years so I don’t even remember how good those 2 are.
I do remember Tracey West wrote alot of Pokèmon books though.
I hope the WWE movie still gets made!
Thanks for doin’ it, man.
Like I told SA, with the exception of Ross, it’s rare that I can go deep into Scooby and not lose the person I’m talkin’ to.
It’s nice to expand that circle a little wider.
I’ll gladly have you back if you want.
@ScoobySnaxCom: The order on that series is confusing!
I always thought Glowing Alien was #1 and Theater Phantom was #2, but I could be wrong.
I hope so too!
There’s been rumors around the Internet that they’re going to edit out Hogan and replace him with another wrestler, but I have no idea if that’s true or not.
No problem, I really enjoyed doing this!
I’d love to come back for another one!
ThatScoobyDoom: I have no bloody clue, man.
I’ll have to investigate it indepth, but I was basing my guess on how they came from the book club.
Based on how WWE is distancing themselves from him, it’s almost certain they will.
They have pulled most mentions of him from their site and pulled the announcement video he did.
I have no clue who they can replace him with either.
As we start wrapping up, I have 1 last book question for you.
Did you get those Scooby “guide” books?
The guide to life and the guide to school?
@ScoobySnaxCom: Wow…to be honest I’ve never even heard of those guide books.
Are they worth getting?
ThatScoobyDoom: Yes and no.
For us collectors, fuck yeah.
For everybody else, not really.
They are really kiddie, but I remember loving them as a kid.
There is a Scooby Snack recipe in the life guide that I always wanted to try, now that I’m old enough to do it on my own I just might hafta give it a whirl.
I think you’d probably dig ’em though.
I keep meaning to read them again.
@ScoobySnaxCom: I may have to pick those up sometime.
The Scooby Snack recipe sounds interesting!
ThatScoobyDoom: Doesn’t SA has a recipe or a link to one one her site?
If so, I should probably compare them.
@ScoobySnaxCom: Yes she does!
It’s in the Fun Stuff section of her site.
ThatScoobyDoom: I just checked, that’s a totally different recipe than the one in the Guide To Life.
I wanna try ’em both, man!
Well sir, I appreciate you takin’ the time to come round and talk Scooby with me.
It’s been great fun and you are welcome back anytime ya want.
@ScoobySnaxCom: Me too!
I’ve really enjoyed this too.
Thank you for having me!
Like I said, I’d be happy to do another one with you sometime!
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