Don’t Go Down There, Part 4

As you all know by now, many months ago I gave myself a little challenge.
I wanted to write something truly horrific, fucked up, disgusting, and weird.
This is the product of that self challenge.

What follows is Part 4 of what was originally planned to be a 3 Part story, if you all like this story I may turn it into a series of videos, audio drama style, some day.

You can read Part 1 at this link: https://tsdjaproductions.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/dont-go-down-there-part-1/

You can read Part 2 at this link: https://tsdjaproductions.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/dont-go-down-there-part-2/

And you can read Part 3 at this link: https://tsdjaproductions.wordpress.com/2015/08/12/dont-go-down-there-part-3/

If you want more, don’t be shy!
The only ways for that to happen is for you to let me know in the comments below or through tweets and retweets.
Any encouragement leads to more.

Without further ado, Please Enjoy Part 4 of Don’t Go Down There!

His eyes snapped open, the light was still shining down the steps.
“How long was I out?” He wondered with an increasing panic
He sat up, almost nervously, the blood was still trickling from the split in his damn head, and holy hell did it hurt!
Then strangely the door slammed shut.
He thought that was awfully damn weird, but He heard no footsteps coming down the stairs so He knew cosmically He had somehow bought Himself some more time.
He brought His hand up and wiped the blood off His neck, it felt slimy, probably the mix of cold sweat and hot blood.

He got to His knees, knowing it was best to try standing slowly, and tilted His head to the side to see if He could hear anybody moving around upstairs, he heard nothing.
Was She just…standing up there by the door?
Was it the kids?
If not, where were the stupid ass kids?
He quietly crawled over to His work bench and started to pull Himself up.
As He put His hand on the shelf underneath it for leverage, His fingers touched something they’d not felt in weeks.
He’d thought He lost it when He’d went into the woods to take those little bastards, that She swore He was related to, camping.
His beautiful handgun.
Shit, He wished now that He would’ve used it on those goddamn little motherf…no, there would be time for that later.
He pulled it off the shelf and put it in His waistband, He’d definitely be needing it.

He put his hand on the gritty surface and pulled Himself, wobbling slightly, and blindly searched for His little pen light to help Him see since he’d stupidly broken the one over the bench.
The floorboards directly above His head creaked, He stopped His search, looked up, and grinned.
It didn’t make a shit lick of difference to Him which one it was, the piece of shit was going to die!
Then the heard the floorboards creak again as whoever it was crept away, all the insulation He’d installed to help deaden the screams did Him a disservice in this case, He couldn’t tell which way They had moved.
He went back to Hiss search and immediately found the little pen light.
After falling and the panic of somebody finding Him in such a weakened state, everything He found brought Him a little slice of childish glee.

The door opened and flooded the stairs with light again, the light switch flicked on then off with no result, He was ready now!
He wrapped his fingers aroung the grip of His gun.
Then the most unexpected thing happened, the cutest, most beautiful little voice called down to Him.
“Honey, are you down there? Is anybody here?”
He pulled His hand off the gun in a heartbeat, He relaxed, cleared His throat, and replied.
“Yes baby, bring a light and come on down. Close the door too.”
She was THE ONLY ONE He allowed down here, He actually liked this one, She had showed great potential.
“The overhead still flickers, but plug it in anyway.” He told Her as She made Her way down the steps.
He turned the little penlight on and found a roll of paper towels to wipe His head.
Admittedly, She had seen Him in some pretty bad spots before, but He still wanted to look semi-presentable.
The light flicked on, giving the dingy basement that damn rave feeling again, and She made Her way over to Him.

He grabbed Her by the waist, pulled Her close, and stuck His tongue in Her mouth.
Every other girl He’d ever kissed would belittle the way He did it, always with the nagging of “Too much tongue, it’s like kissing a wild snake trying to attack my uvula”, He was lucky to have found someone that liked everything about Him.
“I thought you were them.” He told Her after they’d pulled apart.
She looked Him over for a silent moment before asking “What happened? Why do you look so rough?”, and He told Her as He turned His head and showed Her the gash in His skull.
She turned Him around and walked Him backwards toward the workbench, telling Him to close His eyes and trust Her, which She knew He did with every fiber of His being.
“I wish you would have waited for me, you know I like watching you work. I love watching the dread set into their bodies before you end them.” She told Him as She helped Him hop up.
“It pissed me off, I just lost control, and put my boot through It’s fuckin’ face.”
“Mmmm, how did It taste?” She asked, noticing the impact the topic had on Him.
“So sweet. There was a piece of It’s skull up here somewhere, I lost it trying to cover up.” The tingle had returned in force, the work excited Him for sure, but the recounting of it was where He got His real charge.

As He continued to tell Her what happened, She began cleaning the wound.
Licking the blood and sweat away from around the new hole in His head so She could sew it shut.
“You might need to go move your car, I don’t them to know you’re here. They’ll have to be  back soon. I wanted to see how long this one lasted, but she had to stick her fuckin’ nose where it didn’t belong. I’m tired of it, I’m ending this today.” He told Her.
“Okay, I’ll do it in a few minutes…but can I please see It before I move the car?” She asked, pulling the last stitch of thread through His scalp.
This is why He loved Her, She liked this shit just as much as He did.
He slid off the work bench, picked up His light, and waved Her over to the hole.
She stepped right up to the edge and They shined Their lights down into the shadowy depths, revealing all of His hard work.

The hole was roughly 4 feet wide and the very bottom, which by now was completely covered, was 45 feet under them.
Deep below, it looked like there were close to 3 dozen bodies of all shapes, sizes, ages, and various stages of decay.
The saddest of which was what looked to be a little old lady, her face forever frozen in pain and fear.
It was thrilling for Them both to be seeing them all twisted and contorted at the bottom, it brought back so many great memories of all the time They’d spent together.
Their love was made clear by the fact that She stood infront of Him with no fear that He’d push Her in, and the thought never crossed His mind.
The smell would be vomit inducing for normal beings.
Stagnant water, the coppery scent of blood, numerous voided bowls, and rotting flesh all intermingling in the nose and on the taste buds.
No doubt it took a little time to warm up to it, He thought, but once you did it was rather pleasant.

They stood there admiring it all for a moment “It’s so beautiful.” She said.
He slide His hands around Her waist, pulled Her close, and whispered in Her ear “you know I love you right?” and She turned around, put Her hands on both sides of His face, looks deep in His eyes, and said “And I love you more.” before kissing Him again.
He pulled away from Her after a few seconds.
“Now go move the car. When you come back we can get this all straightened up and get ready to hunt for the next one.” He said as He started guiding Her toward the steps.
She went up the steps and closed the door.
He went back over to the bench and set about His prep work, grabbed two push brooms from His tool storagelocker, connected the hose and drug it over to His corner of the basement.
He went over and picked up the busted TV off the floor and threw it down the whole, after all it was garbage just like They were.

When She came back They got down to business.
They scrubbed the dried and coagulated blood off the floor and washed it down into the pit, then pushed the old rags of the mattress and down the pit they went.
He flipped the matress that He’d kept It on up while She brushed the broken glass off and swept it down the hole, then he gave the matress it’s much needed flip.
He even replaced the light above the bench, but not the seizure inducing rave light.
It took them no longer than 30 minutes to get it all back in order.
The strange rollercoaster ride of emotions of the day was intoxicating, and now the rush of the hunt for a new victim was starting to set in.

The basement door suddenly swung open!
They looked at each other, panic quickly replaced the rush.
They both instinctively crouched down and crept under the staircase.
A woman’s foot stepped down onto the top step.
“Stacey, are you down there?” the woman asked.
“The bitch is back.” He thought as They looked at one another again, He nodded.
“Yeah, Mom. What’s up?” She replied as She grabbed His hand.
“Is…is he down there with you?” the woman quietly asked as they watched her come down the steps slowly, one at a time.
He blood began to boil.
He tilted His head and cracked His neck “Yeah Aunt Sheila, I’m here.” He replied.
Sheila froze on the steps.
“Oh. I’ll come back.” she said.
She wasn’t the most physical woman, old injuries prevented movement at any great speed.
She tried to turn around on the steps, but he put his hand through the steps and grabbed her ankles before she could.
“NO, IT’S OKAY!” He screamed at her “COME ON DOWN!” then He pulled her ankles through the steps, her face hit on a lower step, teeth shattered out of her mouth and flew away.
He looked at Stacey “Go around and grab her arms.” She did.
And just like that, the hunt was over.

To Be Continued…

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You’ll never realize just how much it can help.

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How It Happened: Senior Moment 2

This is another one of those videos that will be relatively simple to explain.

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This was inspired by that Buick commercial with the little old lady, I can’t find it on Youtube but if you’ve watched any TV in the US in the last 2 years or so you definitely know the one I’m talking about.
The Black lady yells across the street “that’s not a buick!” and the old white lady yells back indignantly “that’s what I told ‘im!”.
They tell ya some more bullshit about the car, then they cut back to the little old broad, now sitting inside the car, and she gives this…really husky voiced, strangely passionate/sexual sounding line reading of “oh my”.
And that was when I had the brain blast!

I’m pretty sure I’ve said what is to follow in previous How It Happened posts, but I’ve always been the type that will do almost anything to get a laugh.
Not as a means to get attention either, it’s simply a gut reaction because I just like making folks laugh.
My mind it always absorbing what I hear and trying to turn it into a joke, a bit, or (since the launch of my Youtube Channel) a video.
And I’m pretty sure I’ve said previously that my first audience has always been my mother.
So, we’re sitting around the electronic hearth one night and on pops granny flooding her panties.
My mind starts working.
“Why is this old bitty so turned on by a stupid ass car?” I wonder.
So, still in my head, I ask her “oh my what, grandma?” and I immediately get the answer “mmm, your grandpa was a very attentive lover “.
EWWWWWWWWWWW!!!
…so I said it out loud.
And I got that sweet sound of laughter, soon followed by that old standard “what the fuck did you just say?” which almost always translates to “that shit was funny, do it again”…so I did.

Later, like most things that get that reaction or that I find funny, I didn’t want to let it go.
And the great thing about the video making, I don’t fucking have to anymore, man!
So I took the idea and began expanding it, and expanding it, and expanding it until I got this filthy fucking bastard that any normal human being would be ashamed and embaressed to have even thought of, let alone to have written, performed, and posted on the goddamn internet…but I love it to fuckin’ bits!

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I took a picture of the back of seat of our Jeep (since it totally fits the story), picked a douchey grandson voice, put on my most feeble old lady voice, layed it all together, and now I present it to you in all it’s filthy old lady glory!
And stay through the credits for a little extra goodness!

http://youtu.be/E6_h80sBxzE

I love a good puke joke.
A bit of dry heaving, a couple of chunks blown, that’s what I call funny.
So I had to add that in.
And that’s How It Happened, gang.

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The world is a rough place full of rude pricks and hateful cockknockers trying to beat the fun out of every goddamn thing you or anybody else trys to do.
Combat these useless pieces of shit by doing whatever you can to spread a little bit of goodness in this angry fuckin’ world, man.
Thanks for reading and I’ll see ya all next time.

Typecast #15: Do You Really Meme It?

Hey gang, welcome back!
Yesterday (October 5th) was the 1 year anniversary of @SpiderScooby helping me launch this site (read the first official post here).
And man, what a year it has been!

I’ve gotten over 3,000 total views & over 1,600 total visitors from 25+ countries.
15 Typecasts, about half of my videos broken down, and a lot of stories shared.
A big thank you to everybody who has been a part of making the 1st year of this site as big as it’s been.
Now onto the future…or today at the very least.

Today’s Typecast has more variety than even Typecast #2 did.
And who is my guest for this momentous occasion?
Well, he IS the master of the Meme, the Helper of Hollywood, one half of @IrvingsBasement and probably half of my Twitter followers!
You all know him, you all love him, he is @MemeEmSteveDave!

As always, his name (@MemeEmSteveDave) will appear in red and link to his podcast, The LP Lexicon Podcast, which you can find at http://lexiconpod.blogspot.com.

All spelling and grammatical errors appear just as they were made simply to maintain honesty.

Take it away me!

ThatScoobyDoom: I think you’ve made it pretty clear that you dig the Tolkien stuff, how did you come by all of that?

@MemeEmSteveDave: I forgotten about this for the longest time, but I was working with a guy in Manchester, England, England … and he used to talk about Fellowship all of the time (I think The Two Towers movie was just about to be released), so he piqued my interest, and I simply went out and bought Fellowship.
I loved it right away.
Beautifully shot, awesome actors, and the film score … Holy crap, How man hours has that score kept me entertained.
From thereon in, I had to buy anything Tolkien-esque, which I did.
When I love something, I have to buy everything that I can which I find, so for the next few years, I bought whatever I could, and it still holds dear to me, even after all these years.

As a side note, the Harry Potter movies were being released at the same time, and I felt that, as it was so big over here in the UK, it was misguided and upon seeing elements which obviously had roots in Tolkiens mythology, I detested it from the get-go.
One day, I had a rare day off from work and was ill on the sofa.
I had just cancelled my satellite TV subscription and had 28 days viewing left (It was cancelled because I never used it), and the first Potter movie was beginning, so I thought “I’ve blasted this franchise with my friend all of this time, so I’ll watch one to see how accurate my judgement was.
Well, same again.
Watched it.
Loved it.
Bought everything that I could.
If it has roots in Tolkien’s mythology, it’s not theft, as I originally thought.
We call it ‘homage.’

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ThatScoobyDoom: So let me get this straight, you’ve only been into it for like 13 years? That’s interesting, because the way it’s talked about here in the states, at least in my experience, is that that shit is drilled into you guys from an early age.
They act like that shit is your version of Batman/Superman/Spider-Man etc, your modern myths.

I’m the same way, if I get into a show, movie, franchise, I go looking for all the tie-in shit immediately.
Books, games, comics, magazines, whatever I can find to feed the beast.

So did you get all of the books right away and compare to the movies?

Don’t get me started on Potter, we’ll be here for a good long while!
I dig LotR, but I fuckin’ DEVOUR Potter!

@MemeEmSteveDave: Yeah, man!
The movies did it for me, but in school, we were never really introduced to Tolkien.
What I did learn later on, is that many people in prison like it, due to its escapist properties, and I think Potter is the same time way.
You get taken away from the woes and drudgery of real life, and can focus your mind on something else for a spell (pun intended).

Tolkien was an Inkling, along with CS Lewis, and the way they created was very interesting inasmuch as that they wanted to read these folk stories that never existed so they had to write them.
Personally, I feel that it’s a great way to create.

I bought the books right away, and was happy with how the movies were produced, in comparison for Rings.
Potter, on the other hand, always felt like a slight disappointment when I was leaving the theater because they cut so much out, to keep the run time decent.
For me, Goblet, Phoenix, Half-Blood Prince and Hallows should all have been split into two movies, like Hallows was.
Hallows was such an enjoyable cinema experience (incidentally, I am taking my two sons to The Magical World of Harry Potter in 10 days).

I just got the Kingsman trade paperback, because I have absolutely fuckin’ devoured that movie.
Have you seen it, yet?
I think it’s probably the best movie I have seen in a long while.

ThatScoobyDoom: That is so counter to what they make it seem like in the media.
I’m honestly surprised by that, never would’ve guessed it.
I can totally see inmates loving both, and if you include the in universe books from Potter that J.K. has done for charity it kinda adds a depth to that story that not many franchises get.
Harry and Ron talk about Quidditch Through The Ages and you can pull that off a shelf and read it yourself, with hand scrawled note from Harry and Ron…it’s nuts!
I’m not much into the other books of Tolkien (I’ve read The Hobbit & half of Fellowship), did he do in universe texts or was the rest of his work adding history to Middle Earthimage

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Yeah, I remember hearing a quote from Tolkien where he said that England has a rich history that goes back many centuries, but when it comes to folklore, mythology, and tales of fiction they have King Arthur…and well, that’s pretty much it.
So he set out to change that.
Some would call that arrogance, I call it smart.
George Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, and even American Graffiti, he saw a gap and felt he could fill it.
Shit, to invoke yet another passion we share, Kev Smith did the same fuckin’ thing with Clerks and the View Askewniverse.

With Rings they did it right, the did 2 hour cuts for theatrical, but the did extended cuts for home video.
Even if Potter hadn’t been split from Goblet on (which I totally agree they should have) they should have at least done extended cuts, and I don’t mean extended cuts like Stone and Chamber got where they had 12 minutes of extra footage, I mean 30+ minutes of extra shit to tell the whole bloody story the way it damn well needs to be told.
Hallows is the single greatest film of the Potter film franchise because they had the balls to let it breath.
It needed to be 4 and a half hours.

I haven’t seen it, but everybody keeps polishing it’s balls.
I have heard it has a stellar cameo from Mark Hamill, which I’m sure everybody reading this knows how I feel about Mark, so I definetly want to see it.
I’ve not been able to see many new movies the last few years though.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Tolkien had tonnes and tonnes of notes, backstory, etc. which formed the Histroy of Middle Earth from it’s inception right through to the Fourth Age (When the Ring was destroyed).
Of course, The Hobbit is where people begin, and a surprising amount of people can’t finish Fellowship, so don’t feel bad.
Once you get onto the journey, you’re away until the End, it’s awesome.
I love the Appendices of LotR, which tells of what happened to everyone in the Fourth Age.

But behind all of that was Tolkien’s notes which were released some years later in a book called The Silmarillion.
What happened with you with Fellowship, happened to me with The Silmarillion.
I got halfway and about gave up.
I forced myself to go back and I finished it, and it’ll be the greatest Tolkien movie never made.
I would absolutely love to see that in movie form, but it seems that it will never happen; the Tolkien family don’t appreciate the movies, it seems.

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Here in England, we don’t have a great deal of folk-lore.
Our folklore is now LotR, which could be anyone’s folklore, it’s justhat the writer was British.
J.K. Rowling created an incredible universe, and a wonderfully told story which will be loved for years to come, too, and I often wondered what she would do after Potter.
The series that she is working on now is as good, and equally enjoyable, and it’s a great feeling heading out once a year to buy a new Rowling book (Even though it doesn’t have her name on the front cover).
I am, of course, referring to the Cormoran Strike novels. J.K. Rowling was always a detective writer at heart, only now she doesn’t mask it.
As of now, there is two books, with a third being released in October.
I hope there is an underlying arch-enemy.
Nothing has been mentioned at this point.
For every Potter, Baggins, Skywalker and Eggsy Unwin (just to whet you’re appetite), a Lord Voldemort, Sauron, Darth Vader and Richmond Valentine (Yeth, motherfucker!) is necessary.

I’m going to link you to a 3 minute video of Kingsman.
Watch it, and let me know exactly what you think. https://vimeo.com/126552945

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, the thought, effort, time, energy, and shear amount of work that he put in to it all is astounding.
He’s got a richly detailed way about his prose, The Hobbit itself is just so much fun and enveloping with amazing depth, but I’ll tell you why I didn’t finish Fellowship, and it’s sad really.
I have a 4 book box-set that starts with The Hobbit so, naturally, given the obvious fact that it’s set before LotR, I read it first and it has a wonderful pace.
Then I started Fellowship, and it felt like it was written by a completely different author.
Suddenly, the read gets frustrating because he goes into far too much detail for his own good.
It feels like he takes a page and a half to describe a blanket draped over a chair in the corner…that has no impact on the story what so ever.
It’s written beautifully but I was like “who gives a flying fuck? ‘There’s a blanket over a chair in the corner’ is all we need, move the fuck on!”.
He got far too detailed to the point that it became detrimental and distracting, I had to put it down.

The Silmarillion has always been confusing to me, some say it is and in universe text that the characters have access to, but others make it seem like a prose effort breaking down the stories of the verse beyond just Middle Earth, which appears to my understanding to be just a state or country in the world.

Sadly, I’ve not been able to read any of her post Potter product.
I know The Casual Vacancy was well received and I believe it is being made into an HBO (not that one!) mini-series.
I didn’t know that her book under her pen name was part of a series or that she’s even released a follow up to it.
But I do remember the veil being pulled back on her on that one though, it was pretty funny.
The reviews were astonished by this new upstart writer that had such skill, breadth, and ability.
I believe one review said his way with words was the best the world had seen since Rowling, and somebody took that comparison seriously and connected the dots, right?
She said she wanted to see if she could write something without hype or attention and make any wave and got busted because she’s too good.
I’d love to burn through that shit.

That was fucking brutal!
Holy shit on a stick, choreographed to perfection.
I imagine that that scene from the second webisode of Daredevil is something similar based on the praise I’ve read.
Seriously though, that is fuckin’ poetry in motion!
I wanted to see it before but shit!

@MemeEmSteveDave: A couple of years ago, I started to get into audiobooks, and I mentioned this on either one or both of the ThatMan on FatMan episodes that I was on; audiobooks make a good book great, and a great book awesome.
That level of detail is unnoticed when being read by someone.
I did pick up on that, first time I read Return of the King in regard to locations et al.
Jim Dale reading Harry Potter is astounding.

The Casual Vacancy has already been released on DVD.
I do love the book, and it’s great to see Rowling writing for an adult audience but some of the themes mentioned … Holy crap, dude.
Talk about traumatic.
I can’t stomach child death, and when that was flung in there … It’s kind of a downer.

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Two Cormoran Strike novels have been released; The Cuckoo’s Calling and The Silkworm.
A third book, Career of Evil is coming out in October.
She has hinted that there could be eight or more books.
Talk about engaging characters … It’s excitement that I haven’t felt in books since Hallows.

I’m looking forward to Spectre this year, did you see the trailer, yet?
I love the new Bond movies.
Quantum was filmed where I got married in Chile, where my wife and my eldest son were born.

ThatScoobyDoom: I have a few audiobooks, 100% agree.
I have a Star Wars novel and the 1st Potter, the SW novel is interesting because it has music and sound effects, really takes advantage of the LucasFilm library of sounds in a great enriching way.
Potter is great too because Dale is somehow able to make all of those voices distinct enough that it’s not anywhere near confusing.
A masterstroke!

Shit, it’s out already?
I’m so out of touch it ain’t even funny.
Oh, so she gets that dark?
I can’t say I’m surprised by that, honestly.
After she had the fetus Voldemort in Deathly Hallows – which, lets be real, the movie made that more horrific than I ever imagined it.
Covered in blood and what not, holy shit – all bets were off, she made it clear she wasn’t writing just for kids with that one.
She’s always said she wasn’t writing for kids.

8 books, shit!
If anybody can do it it’s her.
Speaking of 8 books, Chris Columbus recently said he’d love to do a movie about the Potter trio as adults.
1. Would you like to see that?
2. Would you like to see her write another Potter book?

I did not, nets throttled.
I’ve only seen Casino Royale, but it was fuckin’ awesome!
I really wanna see the other 2.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Yes, sir.
It passed me by, too, to be honest.
Here at Lexicon Towers, we hardly watch any TV, but we do love film.
I was out shopping one day and stumbled across it.
It’s nicely filmed though, I just dread reaching the end.

1&2.
Yeah, I’d love to see that.
JK Rowling has touched upon what the trio would be doing in this day and age, sporadically, though Pottermore.
There is also the play (Which isn’t a prequel} Harry Potter and the Cursed Child which is being released in London next year.
I’d be down with seeing that.

Casino Royale was awesome.
I was unsure what to expect because I hadn’t paid much attention to the recent Bond movies, and I was suitably impressed.
Same with Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall.
Incidently, I work in the motor industry, so it’s great to see our cars make their way onto film, especially when the movie is so good.
Skyfall surpassed mere Bond, in my opinion.
Such a great, well-filmed, terrific movie.
It shows a part of London which I know, too.
I only ever see it as a tourist, so it’s great to see that aspect of London shown in such circumstances.

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So tell me, Scoobs .. what is the film history from where you live.
Any filming locations near, or movie ties?
I’m interested.

ThatScoobyDoom: I like all forms of filmed entertainment, I’ve always looked at TV as a film franchise anyway.
The pilot is is the first movie and every episode after is just a sequel.
Some good sequels, some back.
But to me it’s all the same.

I’d only want it if she released a wealth of material on it.
Which, knowing how she is, she has it but just hasn’t organized it in any great way.
That play sounds very interesting, I don’t buy that it can’t be turned into a book though.
Books are far easier to present stories than any other medium.
I think that a comic book would probably be the best way for her to present stories, and can you imagine the attention it would bring to have a true literary icon like her do a comic?

Solace picks up moments after Casino, right?
I think I’ll be disappointed in Skyfall if only for the fact that the kill off Dame Judi, I’ve thought she was insanely awesome since As Time Goes By.
I kept hoping they’d get her into Potter, but alas they missed their chance.

Do you remember that James Spader movie White Palace from 1990?
It was filmed just a few blocks from the hospital I was born at.
That George Clooney movie from a few years back Up In The Air was filmed in part around here, maybe just at the airport.
But nothing huge that I can think of.
Our local government isn’t very supportive of Film and TV, they don’t want to give the tax breaks so productions go elsewhere.
It’s insanity to me, because it they would allow them to show off some of the shit it would bring in tourism, but you know politicians.
Not too fuckin’ swift.

@MemeEmSteveDave: As a teenager I wasted my life in font of the TV, it wasn’t until I bought my own place when I was 20 that I realized, a) this place is expensive and b) I’m spending all of my time at work, so I decided to cut TV and do something productive with my time .. it was making music back then, something I still do albeit sporadically.
Job, wife, kids, etc. make recording hard, but I still have the Lexicon Pod which goes up every Sunday evening, so I still feel I’m putting something out there.
We are coming up to our one year episode in a month or so, and I’m looking forward to that.
Why have you not podded yet, sir?

The reason I asked about nearby filming locations is because here in Liverpool, various TV and movie productions pass through filming parts of the city.
Captain America, Guy Ritchie’s Sherlock Holmes, Peaky Blinders, even Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows had parts filmed here (Harry and Hagrid on Sirius’ old bike in the tunnel, FYI).
Years ago, there was a cult TV Series filmed right at the bottom of the street where I used to live, called Boys From The Blackstuff, which had a young Bernard Hill.
Peter Jackson saw that and cast Bernard Hill as Theoden in Lord of the RIngs, to bring it back to Ring-speak.

I think if JK Rowling did a comic, that would be cool.
Would she do it?
I don’t know, but once every so often she’ll throw out a pop-culture reference which will knock me on my arse, so she can always surprise.

Solace picks up mere moments after Casino Royale ends.
And how great it is, too.
I was lucky enough to see it in the cinema, and those experiences I always keep with me.
This is why I am so looking forward to Spectre.
As our mature British actors arc gracefully into their latter years, it’s always interesting to see what roles are offered them, and how they perform.
Look at Ian McKellen, John Hurt, and yes, Dame Judi and Helen Mirren.
Once it’s committed to magnetic tape, it’ll be around forever.

Governments can be awesome or stupid when it comes to culture.
Luckily, the UK Government has realized that our best export of the past 50 years has been culture, so it’s readily available and well-promoted.
For example, when lived abroad, the Government wasn’t too bothered by culture and taxed the Hell out of everything cultural.
But hey, cigarettes were cheap.

I just watched Big Hero 6 this week.
My eldest son is huuuge into Disney at the moment, and I bought both my boys a Baymax each.
Sure, the films are created to shift merch, but I don’t care.
I like merch.

ThatScoobyDoom: I wanna ask you about your pod in just a bit, but first why I ain’t got one.
There are a few reason why, but most importantly would be that I don’t have reliable Internet.
I know if I had reliable internet I could do a pod with fuckin’ anybody who wanted to talk over Skype.
I’ve had 3 folks ask me to be on their pods but I don’t have room on my phone for Skype so I’ve had to turn them down.
And trust me, it pisses me off that I can’t because I realize that if I could, if nothing else, it would be great promotion for this site and my videos.
Then there’s the equipment I don’t have, I record my videos on a mic that I got with Rock Band for PS3.
It’s decent, but it has a buzz that gets really annoying really fast.
Then there would be my lack of knowledge, I’m not the most technologically savvy dude in the world.
I’ve been told it’s simple to upload them and shit, but I do all my shit through apps on my phone now and that’s simple.
I tried uploading the first Dumbass Poets Society (featuring your Irvings Basement partner J Sarge) from my laptop like 4 or 5 times and I couldn’t get it to work.
I said here on the site in my 2nd anniversary that my plan was to have a pod up and running by the time my 3rd anniversary of doing all this shit comes around on May 27th 2016, but the way it’s looking that’s not gonna happen.
I need somebody local as a pod partner.
At this point, I can really only do a Franken pod like the one Fitzman and I did for Typecast 9.

Even if you take Film & Television out of the equation, you Liverpudlians have a lot of cultural heritage in music.
Most famously, and I’m sure you guys get tired of hearing it, with the Beatles.
Really?
That dude what played Theoden King was fuckin’ bad ass.

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It makes sense for her to do one too.
It’d be a new medium for her, it’d last for many years which would make sure Potter stayed in the public consciousness, not to mention the benefits for the comic industry.
Which ever company (probably DC given the pre-existing Warner ties) got that book would get Oprah rich!

I wanna see that bastard (Solace)!
Ya’ll have some fuckin’ brilliant actors over there too!
Cleese (Bond vet I believe) & Idle are known for comedy but are both just great, well rounded, super talented actors, it was awesome seeing Cleese in Potter and I always hoped they’d get Idle but…
As for McKellen, he’s gotten more high profile work since he went gray than ever before, so there’s that.

Well, the same can be said for us here in the States, our greatest export is entertainment.
Why every State isn’t supportive of it is the reason why a lot of American productions, especially TV, are shot in fuckin’ Vancouver.

Awww, I wanna see dat too!

@MemeEmSteveDave: You gotta pod, man, it’s the easiest and most rewarding thing I the world.
My friends at The Attack of the 50 Foot Nerds podcast record everything via Skype.
If it drops out, it drops out and you edit it out afterwards.
The first Impractical Jokers pods were recorded on a rock band mic, and they all shared the same mic, and I myself have used one to record music.
It’s all part of the journey, the learning curve and building an audience.
I think that’s the best advice I can give to you.
If you don’t do it today, you’ll never do it.

You are a creative person anyway, so once you start, you’ll be amazed at how you didn’t begin before.
I’ve appeared on a few pods now, and it’s always humbling to be asked.

I love The Beatles, man.
That was the group which started me on my musical journey all those years ago.
You dig ’em?
What music are you into, sir?

ThatScoobyDoom: Well, like I said, I dipped my toes into the podding waters with Fitzman.
We had a conversation just like this then recorded our parts and he edited it together and released it on the JJ2End feed.
Folks seemed to have liked it, I hope to do that again soon.
He and I have kicked around trying to get together and do one, but as of now nothing has materialized.
I hope we can change that soon though.

I know, man.
It’s something I desperately wanna get into.
It was shocking the first time I was asked.
I’d only don like 12-15 of my vids and I got an offer and at first I was fuckin’ gob smacked.
It’s beyond humbling.
I was just out of my mind thinking “why the fuck would they want me?” because I just have a respect for the medium as a whole, probably because being a Talk Radio host seems like the most primo job on this ruddy rock.
Especially if you just talk easy shit like entertainment and pop culture.

I was never a huge Beatles fan, not saying I was ever like “fuck duh Beedles, fuck um up duh ash” either.
I respect them and their contributions to music, but I just tend to lean towards the harder shit.
My musical tastes are sorta eclectic at times, but for the most part, especially recently, I just stick to listening to AC/DC.
Fuck, as I type this I’m half watching the Let There Be Rock concert movie.
I listen to alot of 70’s & 80’s rock bands though.
KISS, Aerosmith, Ozzy, Motley Crue, Queen, Journey, Foreigner, Lynyrd Skynyrd, this is the shit I grew up listening to on the radio (94.7, KSHE 95) and it stuck with me.
I’m also a huge Weird Al fan, I love the sound of a bagpipe, & I like some classical type shit.
I’m all over the map really, but at the top of the heap always is AC/DC.
Folks get tired of my talkin’ AC/DC on twitter, but I mean the line Mal had years ago about them doing just street level workin’ man type of shit appeals to me.

What’s the type of shit you like to just kick back and spin?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Well, a quick look through the Lexicon episodes is enough to show exactly what we listen to … alt.rock, indie, singer-songwriters, psych, 60’s, 70’s, 90’s, punk … it’s a broad range. I think the point of the podcast is that you should try different types of music, because there is always something you can relate to, or something you might like which you never realised before. o be honest, it’s my take on the state of the music industry today, music theory, and trying to introduce our audience to something awesome. 

We play the album on my iPod, and listen to it, and have a discussion as it plays. It’s coming up to a year in September. (If you promise to keep it quiet, I’ll show you something … I’ve took the cover of each album we have done and put it in a file. When it’s complete, in time for our 1 year episode, I’m going to have it printed off and I’ll give it to my wife as a reminder of the great time we have spent together. I’ve attached what I have up to now FOR YOUR EYES ONLY! Hahaha).
Also see attached to see how much we have left to cover in the Lexicon.

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Yeah, it’s been great fun.
I started a new job just before Christmas, and I like that we can record constantly on Sunday evening. I’ve fell behind on absolutely everything else, mind … Irving’s Basement .. there’s stuff in the can and to be done, but it’s finding the time .. HBOHelper blog is weeks behind. I’m just busy. LP Lexicon is my only vice at the moment.

ThatScoobyDoom: How did it come about?
Have you tried podcasting before?
Because I honestly think your pod has one of the most interesting concepts I’ve ever heard, basically a music commentary pod.
So fuckin’ cool.

This won’t go up until probably early September or early October, so you’re safe.
Holy shit on a shingle!
That’s alot of fuckin’ CD’s and shit, dude!!!

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Have you guys not skipped a week?
That’s quite a feat, congrats.

I wanna ask you about that too, how did the whole HBO Helper thing come about?

@MemeEmSteveDave: I’d podded on the Attack of the 50ft Nerds pod a few times, and I’d been on ThatMan on FatMan, too.
I’d always enjoyed it and I had edited best of episodes of TESD and HBO (I have a cameo on HBO Secret Origins 3), so editing was never really a problem.
I’d been doing it for years with music. 

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One day, I was thinking about a music commentary pod, and my wife asked if she could do it with me.
She got the ol’ “If we do this, you need to be commited,” speech, and from then, we was.
We haven’t skipped a week, per se, we had a week off one week, but had multiple episodes previously, so it’s about right.

I knew I had a good idea when I thought of it, the night we recorded out debut episode, I went on Attack of the 50ft Nerds, too, and when I explained the concept of the podcast, their reaction was inspiring.

HBOhelper came around in Sept. 2011.
I was relistening to the episodes from the beginning, and I figured that some of the old news stories which Ralph and Kevin talked about were lost in the internet now, so I set about recording them on a blog, very similar to FindEmSteveDave (Which I also helped out with, later on).
After I did the first episode, Ralph started to follow me, and plug the blog on HBO.
It was a great time.
As mentioned, I used the notes I took to create the Secret Origins episodes, and when I met Kev last July, I told him I was the HBOhelper and he was like “Shit, you’re famous, dude!” which made me laugh.
I’ve fell behind on my blog for the last few weeks, which I hate to do.
I’ll catch up eventually, but I’m struggling for time at the moment.

ThatScoobyDoom: How did you get hooked up with 50ft Nerds and ThatMan?
Was it just common fandoms?

BTW, those Secret Origins eps are perfect ways to intro folks to HBO.
As you well know, I’ve asked you a few times to send me the links on twitter so I could forward them to somebody who wanted to listen but felt like the missed the boat because of all the references and shit.
You did primo work with those, man.

I’m telling you dude, I think it’s fuckin’ genius!
I’d kill to do something similar for movies and TV, just a pod of commentaries for shit I like.
You inspired that idea because yours is just so fuckin’ pimp.

Oh, I remember hearing them talk about it.
Once again, I had a moment where I just stopped and thought “fuck! This is a brilliant goddamn idea that I wish I’d thought of!” because it’s just so fuckin’ cool, man.
To catalog the news, bits, and assorted goofiness.

Which is why I appreciate all the more you takin’ the time to do this!

@MemeEmSteveDave: 50ft Nerds followed my Meme ’em account on twitter and I live about 15 minutes away from one of the hosts.
Scott asked me to go on FatMan one day, really early on, but I think I wasn’t able to make it on until Episode 14.
But yeah, common fandoms in TESD and Kev.

I loved putting the Secret Origins episodes together.
It takes a VERY LOOONG time, but I was please with how it turned out. 

Sometimes an idea hits you and you just have to run with it.
If you don’t you will forget it.
That’s what happened with HBOHelper and the LP Lexicon.
You understand that anyway, because you have your videos and your TypeCast, which is awesome.

What have you got planned for the future?
Anything you can divulge?

ThatScoobyDoom: I hadn’t planned to ask you this, but since your the only person I’ve talked to in this medium that’s met him, what was it like meeting Kev?
I know that he’s a huge hero for you the same way he is for me.

They were awesome, man.
Do you have a favorite HBO moment or bit?

Yes, I totally get it.
It’s happened many times to me.
And if you don’t forget, it, what ever IT may be, tends to haunt you until you do something about it.
I have a few of those haunting things now.

Hmm, that’s a good question…I plan to stretch and try new shit.
I have a few more Bat videos coming that I plan to tie together into 1 big multi-part, multi-perspective, multi-layered story.
I even have a love story (stop giggling!) planned.
I’ve got even more sequels coming, and I plan to finish off my Star Wars story in spectacular fashion.
I said in my 2 year post that I wanted to have a pod up and running by my 3 year anniversary, but I’m not quite sure that’ll happen.
I have a few other things I want to get done with a few other folks, but I don’t really wanna say just incase they fall through.
I don’t want a painful reminder.

How about yourself?
What does the future hold for the Lord of the Memes?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Oh, he was so cool, man.
I’ll tell you about it.
Saw HBO in London last year, with a couple of guys of the Attack of the 50ft Nerds.
Show was fun, and afterwards I went for a pint with ol; Declan ‘Creaky Knees’ Quinn.
When I came back Super Groovy Cartoon Movie was on, and then a short Q&A.
We had to clear out pretty quickly and there was a short queue outside to try to catch Kev outside.
I was talking to Declan all the while, who was inside, and we waited for aaaages, and eventually Declan came out.
We went to try to get another drink but by this time, everything was closed, but as we walked past the queue again, Kev was clearly visible outside so we headed over.
He was there, with Jay, and Jen was in the vehicle, I believe.
I waited a little and asked Jay if we could take a photo.
He was very friendly, and posed for photos with myself and my friends.
Very sweet guy.
Then I saw Kev was free, so I went over and asked if I could have a photo.
I told him about HBOhelper, as per above, and he was very friendly.
He took a couple of photos, to get the best light and complimented me on my TESD shirt.
He makes you feel at ease and talks to you, and leaves you feeling very positive afterwards. 

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When I had met people whose stuff I dug before, there was always a kind of comedown afterwards, as it sunk in that you’d probbably never see them again.
Not the case with Kev.
I felt great afterwards, and i think it was the best meeting I ever had (and this comes from someone who met Quentin Tarantino).

Favourite HBO bit … Mmmm, if it made it into the Secret Origins, it was because I loved it, but I’ll say when Ralph did Christoher Walken discussing Natalie Wood.
That shit was gold. 

‘Love story.’ {giggle}.

Mmm … for me, I think the future is going to be as busy as my job lets me be.
I had a quick word with JSarge regarding some Irvings Basement stuff we’ve recorded this morning, and I’m planning to bring HBOhelper back up to date.
I’ll get there!
But my true vice is buying music, so I’m always looking for new material for the Lexicon.
I bought some stuff today (Deftones, Nine Inche Nails, Eagles of Death Metal), and I’ll get some in London, too, I’m sure.  

ThatScoobyDoom: It’s good to hear that.
I talked with JTF (the worthless shithead) and he told me about seeing Red State with the Q&A after, and while he never met the dude, he had good a good experience…despite having poo in his eye.
Kev is one of the few celebrities I’d actually like to meet and you never hear of folks meeting him and coming out the other end going “you know who’s a real piece of shit? Kevin Smith. He laughed at my limp, pushed me down to the ground, and carved out my spleen.” he really seems like a genuinely nice dude…unlike JTF who is a douche.
Yes, twice I smacked JTF.

I’m trying to think about a favorite Babble Bit myself, I may hafta go with Creepy Clown Time and it’s various incarnations.
That really shows off Ralph’s talent and skill as a voice actor, something I deeply admire.

Lets talk a bit about Irving’s Basement.
First and foremost, where did the name come from?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Ah, @JoinedToFollow … What an absolute twat.

All those Babble bits which went on to have their own segments were awesome … Creepy clown.
Babble story time. Inappropriate Toys.
The origins where the greatest.
Remember hearing the Fries Girl for the first time.
I damn near pissed myself laughing.

Irving’s Basement … I don’t know if we ever mentioned where the name came from, but it’s a Fight Club reference.
When Fight Club moves from the car park and into the basement of the bar, the guy who runs the bar was called Irving, and basically, Irving’s Basement was where Fight Club was held until it moved to Paper Street.

So there you have it!
An exclusive.
Pop yer monocle back in.

ThatScoobyDoom: He is…he really is…not a snappy dresser either…not a snappy dresser…

Yes, and Kev’s crys of “you’re goin’ ta hell, dude!” made it even funnier.
Remember the special ed teacher who said she loved the Fry Girl?
That was a bit awkward…which made it even funnier!
I remember Ralph making the promise back in the first 10 episodes or so to get Kev and Seth MacFarlane together.
I still wanna see that happen!

OH SHIT SON!!!
Mystery motherfuckin’ solved up in this bitch.
That’s cool, man.
This isn’t gonna post for a few months so we gotta keep that under wraps!
So, how did you and the Rock Star that is good sir @TheJSarge hook up to form @IrvingsBasement?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Well, I always loooved Argus (The TESD theme), and befriended JSarge in the early days of TESD.
I wanted to work with him on something because we had many ideas about music, but I recall that he was occupied at the time.
I was living in South America, and had time to spare seemingly and one day he sent me a demo of a track he had wrote, to see if I’d like to work on it.
The result was Bezlotek on my Mind: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CYqBhh4ciKM 

I played the guitars and made the video on a road trip close to where I was living.
JSarge did everything else.
From then on in, we’d record on and off, depending on our work/ family situations.

You dig, Scoob?

ThatScoobyDoom: How long have you guys been working together officially as Irving’s Basement?
And would I be right in guessing you guys still haven’t met in person?

That video is fuckin’ entrancing dude!
I’ve not heard everything you guys have done, but what I have heard it (I hate to say it again, but it fits) is so fuckin’ rhythmically entrancing it’s kinda soothing/calming and I find myself sorta zombified in a way.
Just slowly nodding my head.
It ain’t AC/DC, but it sure is fuckin’ good…so good I had to ask youse guys if I a could borrow a song for one of my vids.

I don’t know if you’ll remember, but can you tell me how you guys came up with Comfort Problems?
Cause I really dig that song alot.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Mmm … As for that, it was the same kind of thing.
JSarge sent me a demo, and I worked on it.
We have a couple of different versions, aside from the final one.
I had one which was loud as Hell.
I’ll have to dig that out sometime.

Irving’s Basement has been going since about the beginning of 2012.
We have never met as JSarge lives all the way over there, and I am across the pond, and even when I lived across the pond, it was wayyy south of the States, and next to the other pond (The Pacific). 

ThatScoobyDoom: Is it normal for you guys to have a few versions of a song?

I ask because it fascinates me.
I’ve collaborated with folks from all of the world myself, people that I will never meet.
It’s always interesting for me to see how and talk to talented fuckers that don’t let distance or vast bodies of water stop them from coming together and completing a project.
3 years?
Shit, that’s cool.

So before we wrap this up, I wanna get back to that which was the whole reason I brought you in, Lord Of The Rings, for just a bit.
I mentioned the extended editions earlier and I wanted to ask if you, like so many including meself, prefer those to the theatrical cuts?

@MemeEmSteveDave: It’s quite normal to record several versions of tracks, before I send everything over, and a final version is mastered.
The Bezlotek EP features the original version, the Morricone version, (A spaghetti western inspired version) and Bezlotek Ice which is over 30 minutes long. 

And so, to The Rings … ‘say what you will about Jesus, but leave the Rings alone!’ Yeah, the Extended cuts are my absolute favourites.
I can hardly watch the theatrical cuts anymore, because of what is missing from the extended cuts, and the same goes for The Hobbit.
I have the extended versions of Rings on blu now, which is beautiful.
I remember Mewes talking about it on Twitter one day, and he said “LotR on blu is incredible,” or something to that effect, and I was like, “How incredible can it be?” SO I went out and bought a blu-ray player to find out, and sure enough, it’s pretty incredible. 

When I saw The Hobbit for the first time, I was like, “It was OK,” but when I saw the extended cut, it took me back to feeling how I felt when the LotR movies were released.
The Desolation of Smaug extended cut is particularly astounding.
Gandalf in Dol Goldur … that stuff was left out of the theatrical cut.
How dare they?!
I can’t wait for the extended Battle of the FIve Armies, and I think that may be it.
As stated earlier, I don’t think Tolkien’s estate will allow the making of any more movies, which is a shame.
Some of The Silmarillion shuff is beautiful, but seems, confined to remain on the printed page forevermore.

ThatScoobyDoom: 30 minutes long?
Holy shit!!!
That sounds like a melodic wet dream.

I’ve…I’ve never actually seen the theatrical cut of Fellowship.
My dad liked the books but for some reason we never got it when it came out, I don’t remember when we got the Extended exactly but I watched it sometime before Two Towers came out and it was unlike anythink I’d seen before.
Towers dropped and I got it and was disappointed at the lack of development/character moments, few months later a neighbor moved in that had Two Towers extended and let me borrow it.
It was a revelation!
I quickly learned to just stick to the Extendeds.

I (sadly) haven’t seem any of the Hobbit movies, but does it bother you AT ALL that they split the shortest book in 3?
Because I STILL see motherfuckers bitching about it.

I also see so called “Tolkien purists” who complain they changed the story just to make it line up more with Rings, can you shed some light on that?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Yeah, 30 minutes long. It’s an interesting take on Bezlotek, and  it’s available to hear, here: https://irvingsbasement.bandcamp.com/album/bezlotek-ep

Before I saw the Fellowship extended, I only had the theatrical version, which I loved and made me fall in love with LotR, so it’s not bad at all.
It’s just I prefer all the extra stuff. 

Well, we discussed Goblet/Phoenix/Half-Blood Prince should have been two movies each, and The Hobbit being made into three movies really pleased me.
Can’t wait for the extended cut in December.
It’s a fact that when anything has been written and will appear on the screen, it won’t be a literal showing of the text.
People don’t like it, but that’s the way it is.
People can moan about the films changing the story of the books to make the story line fit, but The Hobbit was changed once the Lord of the Rings was changed to better fit the story, specifically Bilbo finding the Ring.
It’s actually touched upon in the prologue, presented that Bilbo wrote the original story, and it was later changed to say what had really had happened, s Bilbo had lied to the dwarves about the circumstances of how he found the Ring.

At the end of the day, you have The Hobbit, extra material, and whatever else in about 10 hours of film.
People just like to complain about movies.
For years, there was no Hobbit movie because it was tangled up in legal disputes, and there are movies and projects trapped in Development Hell.
Maybe I try to look at everything too positively (which I do), so I guess you have to watch it and make up your own mind,

ThatScoobyDoom: I’m gonna listen to this soon!

As you said though, it’s hard to go back.
I don’t have the theatrical cut of Fellowship and I’m never gonna get it.
As you and Mewes said, this shit is made for Blu.
I don’t have the blu’s but I hope ta get ’em someday.
Look so good.

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I think there is a way to preserve the text and still make a good movie, the first 2 Potters did.
They cut shit, but not enough to effect the story in a bad way.
Prisoner is where they started losing me.

I know man, I’m not immune to bitching myself.
Speaking of that development hell, one of the big start stops had to do with the director.
So where do you stand on Del Toro?
Some were happy he left, others weren’t.
I’ve heard some even say that the first one feels like he directed it because it has his fingerprints all over it.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Azkaban is where I began to get a bit annoyed, too, to be honest.
I loved the darker direction, but all the stuff they cut annoyed the Hell out of me.
Nowadays, it’s seen as a lot of people’s favourite movie, but when I first seen it, I was disappointed that they cut out The Marauders, changes to the story, and even Dumbledore.
I loved Richard Harris, and was never really impressed with Michael Gambons angry take on Dumbledore.

I quite like Guillermo Del Toro.
The guy (kinda) made a live action movie of one of my favourite series of all time: Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Of course, Pacific Rim is not Eva, but almost like it.
I’ll take it.
Do you know NGE?

Del Toro wrote the script, so naturally, his mark has been left on the film.
It’s fine with me.
I’m just happy to have The Hobbit available to see on the big screen.

ThatScoobyDoom: I remember Mosier saying was his favorite, which baffled me.
I’ll never forget the first time I saw it, me and my Mom watched it on DVD and when the credits started to roll she slowly turned to me, blinked like 3 times and says “…what the fuck just happened???”
My simple reply was “I have no idea…AND I READ THE BOOK!!!”
It was my favorite book and they completely gutted all the story points to the point that folks knew shit and you had no clue how they knew shit until like 2 movies later…and everybody in the world was okay with shit just happening with no explination…it was just a clusterfuck of monolithic proportions.
They even made Dumbledore’s office into Remus’ office which really fucked things up.
At that point I sorta just checked out of the movies and just watched as Emma Watson grew more and more stunning…which I have a “signed” headshot of her, I wrote a letter and got that back on Christmas Eve.
Yeah, but by the time they got to Order, I think if they’d left that scene in where Harry goes apeshit and starts destroying Dumbledore’s gizmos and gadgets, angry Albus would have fit.
I missed Harris too, but not like they had a choice.
Crazy Albus we got.

I don’t know it at all, I haven’t seen Pacific Rim either.

I know Jackson had his reasons, but I thought it was weird he didn’t just do it from the jump.
Who knows the big screen version of this world better than him?
He brought it to life before, makes sense that he would again.

Did they get Christopher Lee into Hobbit?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Peter Jackson said during LotR that he would never make a movie trilogy again, from the stress that approaching deadlines caused.
That was why Del Toro was brought in, but as the legal ramifications seemed like they would never be sorted, he had to go as he had other commitments.
Completely understood, but I felt like it should have only been Peter Jackson, anyway.

Christopher Lee was brought in to movie one and three of The Hobbit.
And great he is, too.
What a life he had, man.
Dracula, Scaramanga, Count Dooku, Saruman and whatever else he played.
What an incredible life.
And he was in contact with Tolkien, when he was alive.
If one could achieve a fraction in life of what he achieved, one would have a tale to tell, would they not?

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s the big secret of the film industry right there, deadlines.
Studios impose these hard deadlines and in some cases it turns into you get a movie done…not a movie done well.

Amd don’t forget his metal album!
He’s the type of dude that should’ve had a podcast because as you say, you know that dude had stories on top of stories on top of stories.
From seeing the last public execution im France, to knowing Tolkien, to working with George Lucas (a modern day Tolkien), to doing what had to have been a life long fantasy an being in 5 movies based on the work of Tolkien.
Cause it’s well documented that he was a huge fan of that work, he’d read the Rings books every year for like the last 50 years or some such shit.
So to just ask him “fuck being in it, what was it like to see a movie based on these books you’ve loved for decades dude?”.
The day he died sucked ass.
That day was made worse for Wrestling fans with the loss of Dusty Rhodes.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Very well said, sir … On everything.
Did you hear about the Stone Cold/Rowdy Roddy Piper debacle?

ThatScoobyDoom: Recent?
No!
What happened???

@MemeEmSteveDave: Ask and ye shall receive!

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0713/598234/roddy-piper-talks-steve-austin-controversy/

ThatScoobyDoom: Wow!
That’s fucked up!
I just read about it on another site, did you see the 3rd person involved?

@MemeEmSteveDave: No! Who is it?!

ThatScoobyDoom: Dave Thomas, Founder Of Wendy’s!!!
KRACK-A-DOOOM!
*mic drop*

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Hahahaha!
So I guess you are a fan of the wrasslin’?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Motherfucker.

Haha, yeah.
Foley, Austin, Rock. Attitude era.
Loved that stuff, man. Yourself?

ThatScoobyDoom: AHAHAHAHA!!!
I’m sorry, I had to!

Oh yes, I watched that era growing up and I have almost every PPV from WrestleMania XX to WrestleMania 28 on DVD.
Foley and Austin are awesome, Dwayne I have a distaste for.
But the dude that I’ve always rooted for the hardest would be the Phenom, Undertaker.
I remember being thunderstruck by his entrances as a kid.
Dude is truly a legend if only for maintaining that gimmick that should really be laughed out of the building in 2015…not just maintaining it, but thriving with it.
Amazing!

@MemeEmSteveDave: How strange that yesterday we were speaking about Rowdy Roddy Piper and today he has passed away.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah…I was just about to ask you about that.
How hard did that hit you?

@MemeEmSteveDave: Well, it was a shock because of everything which has happened in the past fortnight.
But I watched between Wrestlemanias 9-19.
Or thereabouts, so that was really after his time, with a few exceptions.
I did like him, though.
Dastardly heel, with a wealth of stories, from an interesting life.
It’s a shame he never got to document it all, aurally, but what he did get down was gold.

ThatScoobyDoom: I had never heard his pod but I might hafta check it out.
I was a bit more than shocked, I’ve recently said he’d be a good replacement for Hogan in the next WWE/Scooby-Doo movie.
I’ve been a fan for years!
They Live was fuckin’ awesome, I actually talked to Fitz about trying to write a TESD Parody of that movie.
But yeah, he and Dusty both were amongst the best talkers in the buisness.
It’s barely sunk in.
Did you see the DVD set they did 6 years or so ago with the doc about him?
Great shit.

@MemeEmSteveDave: I don’t know too much about the guy, but respected what he did.
I listened to his pod for a while, but eventually they all bled into one.
The odd episode will come along which I’ll be into, but aside from that, they’ve kinda all became the same thing.

Wrestling is weird inasmuch as yes, it’s scripted, and yes, Cena blows, but once every so often I’ll get the urge, and it’ll surprise me for a while.
But I never dug Hogan, or a lot of the pre-90’s crowd.
Or post-90’s crowd, now that I come to think of it.
I do love, however, how the podcast is an important part of the wrestling experience.
Absolutely great for the format.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, I know how that goes.

I’ve never understood how wrestling being scripted is a reason to knock it.
Nobody bitched when that recent soul searing documentary by James Cameron turned out to be scripted…I’m of course refering to fuckin’ Avatard!
Who cares if it’s scripted???
That makes it no less valuble than any other form of entertainment.
All I have to say to those dickbrains is NEWSFLASH FUCKHEADS!!!
The Avengers, Jurassic World, Star Wars AND Trek ain’t fuckin’ real either!

You don’t like Cena?
What’s he ever done that was so bad, man?

@MemeEmSteveDave: One watch of Beyond The Mat is enough to show someone exactly how things are run, by whom, and the repercussions.
What a great film.
Personally, I think I am due a rewatch soon.

Cena just pissed me off with his gimmick when he came in.
I started to tire of it, and actually stopped watching for about 7 years.
It’s a shame because his debut match was so good, and full of promise.
Check it, John Cena Vs. Kurt Angle.
Kurt seems genuinely frustrated with this unknown kid, and he did this thing I have only seen once to pick up the win: it’s a sure fire way to pin someone so they can’t get out of it. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=10ivQ3ogO1M

I think I feel about him, how you feel about The Rock.

ThatScoobyDoom: Never seen it, just read Mick Foley talk about it a few times.
Care to explain a bit?

I’ve seen the match.
I know all about RUTHLESS…AGGRESSION!!!
Was impressive.
Hated Cena when he started, the whole Eminem wanna be bullshit just wasn’t for me.
But in 2007 they released that 3 disc DVD about him and I had no interest in it…but here in the states at Circuit City they released it with one of those Fathead poster things for Smackdown Vs Raw 2008 and that had Undertaker on it.
$22 and you get a free Fathead with Taker on it???
I FUCKIN’ POUNCED!!!
Threw the DBD (Dusty tribute right there) aside for a few weeks to collect dust…then I figured “I have it, why not spin it?” so I watched it and from that point on I’ve been a huge fan of his.
He seems like one of the few guys that is genuinely in love with the business and company.
I have insane respect for that.
Folks blame him for his unchanging gimmick and shit but the fact is it’s just not his decision.
As long as he and his gear continue to make MILLIONS for that company, he’ll be that saccharine sweet, squeaky clean, safe for kids dude that the internet hates.

Oh, I highly doubt that.
I detest Dwayne for his constant insulting of WWE and WWE fans in his years away.
Cena wasn’t lying in the build up to WM with all that shit he said about the dude.
When he dropped “The Rock” from his name he got real pissy about it telling folks Rock was just a dead character and all that other shit.
Before he came back everybody else remembered it, now they all drink the punch that he poisons.
And it’s sad, cause I was a huge fan…but now?
He’s just Dwayne to me, I can’t stand to see his fuckin’ face.
Him, Miz, and Hogan can all fuck off.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Beyond the Mat is a documentary showing several types of wrestler.
The Up-and-Comers.
The guy about to get signed (Droz).
The guy on top (Foley), and the guy on the way down (Jake The Snake).
It’s interesting because you see lots of backstage stuff, interviews with WWF brass (Jim Ross), and other aspects of the business that you’d never see anywhere else.
It’s well worth the watch, and it’s heartbreaking at times, especially when you see the Royal Rumble match.

I don’t grudge Rock.
His family is rooted in the business and he moved on, for a while.
I’ve always been entertained by him, and enjoy when he makes an appearance.
Never dug Hogan or Miz, though, so a double- fuck off for them.

Good reading your experience with Cena.
Maybe I should give the dude a chance.
I do like the passion that he has for the business when I’ve heard him on pods.

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh, I can imagine.
I’ve wanted to see it since I first heard about it.
It sounds very thorough.
Did you ever see that doc about Bret Hart that ran through the screw job?
You wanna see something riveting, spin that shit…and I don’t like Hart.

He just seemed like he got to big for his britches, as they say.
He started believing his own hype and it’s like “dude, you did The Toothfairy, take it down a notch!”, ya know?

I think if can you look beyond the screen persona you’ll find his worth.
His interview with Austin is great, that right there is a perfect example of his passion.
I mean, shit, he even got divorced because he was more dedicated to WWE.
Watch that My Life doc, good shit.

@MemeEmSteveDave: I used to love Bret Hart.
I think that stuff which happened to him and his family were a shame.
I loved Owen, too, when I was younger.
He was a heel for a majority of the time, but I could look past that, with him, and always appreciated what he did, especially his run with Bret as warring brothers (which I understood a lot).
I’d love to see that documentary, I find the Montreal Screwjob fascinating.
Probably the turning point for wrestling in these later years.
Was it a shoot?
Was it a work?
I don’t know.
Everyone seems to change their stories every other week.
Except the one guy who got shit on. Bret.

ThatScoobyDoom: Bret has always rubbed me the wrong way, I’m not sure why.
But what happened with Owen is definitely up there as one of the worst tragedies to ever befall the buisness, I’d probably put it behind the Benoit Incident and The Screw Job as most impactful.

I tend to side with Vince when it comes to the Screw Job though.
In that time Vince was scared shitless because he’d had guys he thought he could count on piss in his fuckin’ face on live tv by throwing his belts in the trash on the competitions show and shit.
Everybody else (Shawn, HHH, Earl Hebner) were just carrying out Vince’s orders.
It’s a sad truth though, if you get burned so many times by folks you’re gonna start making preemptive strikes.

That’s what the Screw Job was, in a nutshell.
It’s on that same list of impactful incidents, and like the Benoit thing, you can still feel the reverberations from it today.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Yeah, there are things that happen which are still felt years later.
It’s weird, because now the podcast is just as important, in that sense.
In the past, aside from the incidents you mentioned, like the Kliq at MSG, Shaun Michaels getting his ass kicked in NYC and Alundra Blayze throwing the Women’s Championship in the bin on Nitro were what impacted the future.
What has happened recently in the podcast world was CM Punk explaining why he left the WWE (What an enthralling listen), Vince on Austin’s pod, and the aforementioned Austin/Piper debacle.
It’s going to be interesting to see what else happens in the future.
You hear another side to the people you see on TV, once they get going on a pod.

Can you recall anything of note which I might be forgetting?

ThatScoobyDoom: Punk finally explained why he left???
What pod was this on?

I think these guys writing books started us om that road, specifically Foley and Y2J’s books.
I’ve read all 4 of Mick’s books and the last 2 really pull back the curtain on WWE & TNA.
He describes the creative process indepth, details his battles with Vince and why HE left WWE after the announcing job.
After that, you really understand how good the WWE announcers really are.

How great was Austin’s pod with Vince?
Near the end where Vince dropped his dick on the table and said “I own the network, we’re going 10 minutes more”?
Wow, that was fucked up and funny.

I think Austin’s pod has had the most interesting shit for me, HHH breaking down this years Rumble not long after it happened, describing the fans revolt to Reigns winning was riveting!

The only thing I can think of would be Jericho getting Bill Demott on to talk a bit about why he was fired from WWE.
That was pretty interesting and gave me a new perspective on Demott.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Yeah, CM Punk went on Colt Cabana’s podcast, The Art of Wrestling: 226 and returned for an aftermath on 227 (seehttps://soundcloud.com/coltcabana/aow-226-cm-punk and  https://soundcloud.com/coltcabana/aow-227-cm-punk-returns ), and explained everything as to why he left.
Such an intriguing listen, and a look into the WWE of today.
This was unprecedented because he basically blasted almost all the brass at WWE and other talent, and staff, and explained about what happened when he left, and how he got his revenge.

The wrestling book was great, and I especially liked Foleys works because he wrote them all himself, without the aid of a ghostwriter.
Have a Nice Day was an especially great read and remains one of my favourites to this day, and is one of the reasons why i like Foley so much.

I loved Vince’s appearance on Austin’s pod.
It’s a great show because you can hear the real Vince in there, unlike you’ve really heard him before.
Austin said ages ago that he was going to try to get The Undertaker on is pod.
Man, I’d love to hear that.
That would be such a great show, as I’ve heard Austin tell of details of them both on the road in the past which have been hilarious.

I always liked Jericho, too.
As I said before, all the pods began to bleed into one and I had to make cuts, but I still see who is on the new episode, and if it tickles my fancy, I’ll give it a spin.

ThatScoobyDoom: I just listened to that.
Love or hate Punk (and trust me I have issues with him and a bit of what he said), but if you call yourself a fan of Wrestling, Sports Entertainment, WWE, TNA, ROH, any of it, that is must listen shit!

Yes, Foley has always been a favorite of mine too.
He’s one of the only heavy dudes in entertainment that was never just the fat idiot.
I’ve never been one of the folks that was bitchy because I don’t get much representaion in media, but when folks like Foley and Kev popped up I paid attention.
Smart motherfucker that made it in a field that was at a point where it was changing to be against him.
Such an eloquent dude.

It’s gonna happen on WWE network!
They’ve announced Taker will be on sometime this year.
I hope Austin posts it in his pod feed because that’s something I need to hear.
I’ve only seen Taker do 1 real interview and it was on Kimmel in like 2003, so it’ll be very interesting to hear.

Same here.

Damn, we’ve covered alot of shit, man.

@MemeEmSteveDave: I’ve always admired Punk.
Great on the mic, mesmerising in the ring, and I love his attitude.
That pod is very revealing, and I listened to that and the following episode several times.
I found it to be inspiring, and I’ll be interested to see where he goes in his career in the future.
Also, as a ‘small’ guy, he made it huge, which I always like to see.

I’ve enjoyed this Typecast, sir.
I remember when I saw the first one, and I thought ‘That’s a great concept,’ it’s like a pod, but like the transcript of a pod which doesn’t exist.
Guess you’d better start working on the audiobook version!

ThatScoobyDoom: I’ve always flip flopped on him, everything you said is true.
He can rock the stick like few others, he has a great presence, amazing skill, but there’s something about him that strikes me as off…some have said it’s because he has that I Don’t Give A Fuck attitude but I doubt it as I generally share the sentiment.
I really wonder how well the UFC will fit him.

That’s the idea.
Shit, I even talk about it like it’s a real pod.
Awwww, that would be fuckin’ awesome!
To record them all like we did Typecast 9 and release ’em some where, cause I’ve had alot of cool folks on (yourself included, JTF excluded).
As I said earlier, I would love to get one goin’, just gotta figure out how.

@MemeEmSteveDave: Fuck JTF.
Fuck him in his ear!

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It took a few times, but I did, man!

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I think that’s it, gang.
As always, the world is a hard place full of shitty people who will be unnecessarily cruel to you.
Fight against that by being a bright light for somebody on a bad day, you’ll never understand how much it can mean.

Thanks for reading and for always coming back, guys.
See ya next time.