Abandoned Scooby-Doo! Story Part 3 Of 3

This is it kids, the last part of my Scooby story.

You’ll have to cut me a little slack, I was never good at coming up with last names.
I never wanted to say “this is Bill Smith or Wayne Jones, tried to be different and usually came off goofy as hell.

No more jabberin’ from me, get to reading Part 3 of Scooby-Doo and the Curse Of The Football Spector…

“Well, I guess I’d better tell you then.
This might well be the last game played here in the Igloo Dome.
We’ve had a…well, he claims that he’s thr ghost of the very first owner of the Penguin’s, Tom Hawkrider.
He calls himself “the football spector” and he’s been scaring the day lights out of the crowds.” Carl told them.
“Why, Carl?” Daphne wondered.
“Because, back in 1979, he sold the team and then the man that bought the team turned around and sold the team a season or two later to my father who never got along with Hawkrider.” he explained.
“And let me guess, Hawkrider put a curse on the team?” Velma asked.
“That’s right, he said 10 years after his death he would return and stop whoever owned the team from ever owning another team.
Well, I don’t have to tell you what that means.
This season is the 10th season since his death.” Carl finished.

“You’re not worried, are you Mr. Trekwall?” Fred asked.
“To be honest, I am.
What with all that has happened this season, I’m very worried.” he replied.
“What’s happened, sir?” Velma asked.
“Well, at first it was a lot of minor things that almost went unnoticed.
Broken lightbulbs, dumped over trash bins, simple things that we thought were petty vandalism.
Then the scoreboard started displaying rude messages and things like that.
You may also remember hearing on the news that we had postponed a game, the story we put out to the press said that we had a plumbing issue, when the actual issue was that the entire field had been dug up.
So you see, at that point I knew it had to be the curse, and then the spector showed up.” Carl said, looking increasingly uneasy.

“What happened when the ghost showed up?” Daphne asked.
“It started appearing the day after the field incident, it threatened me.
It told me a horror unlike any the world had ever seen before would befall me if I didn’t step aside by midnight last night.”
“Why didn’t you just step aside a save us all an unimaginable horror?” Shaggy asked with a nervous laugh.
“I have 2 reasons.
1st, the 1 person I would trust to put in charge hates working here as it is, and that’s my daughter.
So I’m sure she would hate having even more responsibilities in the organization.
And 2nd, this is the only connection to my father that I have left.” he explained.

The door opened again and in walked a man carrying a helmet, wearing the powder blue and black gear of the Coolsville Penguins, followed by the ticket girl from the gate, holding a purple purse.
While they all recognized the girl, only Velma and Fred recognized the man.
“You’re the man that almost trampled us in the parking lot.” Velma said at the same time Fred shouted “Oh my god! You’re Craig Walkerton! Can I have your autograph?”
Visibly overwhelmed, Craig said. “I’m so sorry about that, I was late.
But seeing as the dome is only a third full 10 minutes before kick-off, I don’t think many will mind.” he then turned to Fred. “And yes, you can have my autograph.
These days, I’m just glad to know I still have a fan who wants it.”

Just then Daphne notices what the girl from the ticket gate was holding and exclaimed. “My purse!
But where did you get it?”
“Obviously, you left it on my counter when you handed me your tickets.” the girl responded.

“Elizabeth! Where are your manners?
That is no way to treat a customer!” Trekwall said to his employee.
“Yeah, whatever, Dad.” she said
She threw Daphne’s purse at his feet and stormed out.
Scooby walked over, picked it up, and brought it to Daphne as, with surprise, Velma asked. “She’s your daughter?”
“And my wife.” Craig said
“She was the one that grabbed your arm in the hall, she said you’d left your bag and we were coming to return it when you walked by us.
We didn’t mean to scare you.”
With that, the two guards left.

Seconds later yells came from the hall.
“What the hell?
Every single damn time I clean up this dump the morons around here have to make another one.” Ranted a custodian.
“And worse yet, Ig and Ook have to come through kicking trash, making my job even harder.
One of these days I’ll get my….oh! Mr. Trekwall, uh, Mr. Walkerton.
H-how are you gentlemen doing today?” Clearly worried he’d been heard.

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That custodian was actually supposed to be a character from an old issue of DC’s original Scooby-Doo comic, #114 if I remember correctly.

That’s it, hope you all dug it.

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And finally, the world is a tough place full of crappy people.
Do your part to change that by being a little less turdy.
A smile or a kind word can help more than you realize.

That’s it for TS-D/JA Productions this year, gang.
There’s a bunch of cool stuff that I hope to share with you next year and I hope you all come back then to read, watch, & listen to it all.
Thanks for your support and thanks for reading.

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Typecast #17: There Has Been An Awakening

Hey Gang!
Welcome back.
This go round with the Typecast, with Star Wars: The Force Awakens opening very soon, I wanted to do something a little different.
So I put the word out on the twitter and asked if there were any folks who wanted to answer 5-10 questions about Star Wars and I got about 5 bites, after a while some folks didn’t follow up so I parred I had 2 then asked Ross, Fitz, & Fafa if they wanted in.
Thankfully, they all said yes.
Also, really quick, I wanna thank @SMorgan21 for offering, if I had known I would have the room I woulda taken you up Sandy.
Sorry!

Now, my questions may get a bit repetitive, but all the answers took us to some cool places, so just go along with it.
My guests this go round, in order, are @SpiderScooby, @CheeryAnt, @SteBoost, @ShariSayz, and @Fitzman73.
Their names will appear in red and link to their respective Twitter accounts.
Also, starting with this Typecast, due to some punkass complaining (I’m looking at you @JoinedToFollow) my name will appear in red, so my name doesn’t blend into the conversation, and will link to my Youtube channel.

These conversations appear just as they were had, typos and all funk ups intact, to maintain honesty.
Also, just incase, I want to put up a SPOILER ALERT, cause things go slightly in that direction with some rumors and images being brought up.
All that said, up first is @SpiderScooby, so take it away me…

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ThatScoobyDoom: How far back do you go with this loveable galaxy far far away?

@SpiderScooby: All my life.
I don’t remember the first time I saw the movies.
They were always just there.

ThatScoobyDoom: So you don’t really recall if your parents liked them and it sort of got passed or something?

@SpiderScooby: Oh yeah, they liked them.
I saw the OT at a very early age.
We had the old VHS releases the had the original posters for the cover art.

ThatScoobyDoom: You’re a wee bit older than me, you’ve been a fan way longer than me, so you’ve been through the periods where there has been…NOTHING!!!
So, what has kept you interested?

@SpiderScooby: Good question.
I never really had any of the toys.
I didn’t start reading the books until the late 90s.
I think the Special Editions helped.
That was my first time seeing Star Wars on the big screen.
That was an amazing experiance.
I remember the line for A New Hope being crazy.

ThatScoobyDoom: Did any of the comics feed the addiction?

And being such a fan, how different was the experience for you to 1. See them writ large for the first time?
&
2. What did you think of that first round of changes?

@SpiderScooby: I never got into the comics because of my eyesight (thank Bob for Comixology).

Seeing that final trench run with the updated SFX was just breathtaking.

The changes never bothered me as a kid.
I didn’t even know Han Shot First was a thing until a few years later.
Looking back on them now, some are better than others.

ThatScoobyDoom: So you, more than most, had a dark time after Jedi in regard to the Wars.

Interesting, consider the way many have reacted.

What was that build up to the prequels like for you?

@SpiderScooby: Not really.
I still had the novels.
And I was lucky enough to miss that dark period in the 80s when there wasn’t amy new SW content.

I didn’t care.
It was Star Wars.
On the big screen.
That was more important to me than any changes.

That lead-up to TPM was madness. the marketing for that movie was crazy.
I was hyped for it, even though when I did see it, it didn’t make much of an impression on me.
I liked it, but it didn’t feel like my Star Wars.

ThatScoobyDoom: Even so, there weren’t a lot of novels back then, comparatively speaking to when I came into it.
You still had to wait for shit, right?

Did you get swept into the hype?
Especially on the merch end?

As the prequels progressed, did it get closer to what you feel is your Star Wars?

@SpiderScooby: Oh, there were plenty of novels.
You had the books that followed the OT(The New Jedi Order, etc), and then the books based off of The Phantom Menace 

Mostly on the book and video game side of things.
That period between 1999 and 2005 was a great time for Stat Wars games  KOTOR, Rouge Squadron, Battlefront. 
I still say the podracibg game was the best thing to come out of Ep1.

Not until the end of Sith.
Even then it would’ve been nice to see a little more of Anakin in the Vader suit.
Ep III especially felt rushed even though it is the best of the prequels.

ThatScoobyDoom: I meant specifically before Menace.
You’ve read some of what they consider the young adult novels, right?

And don’t forget the Republic Commando game, that rocks.
Speaking of Republic Commando, this is a great time for me to eat a bit of crow from one of the earliest Typecasts.
Those Republic Commando novels are fucking masterful!
Sorry Karen Traviss!
Everybody go read them all.

I still haven’t played or seen anything from that podracing game, what was that like?
Because I get visions of like a hybrid between Crash Team Racing and the Harry Potter Quidditch game in style and tone.

The thing about Sith is that it feels like you are coming into the movie like halfway through it (and if you’ve seen the micro series or read Labyrinth Of Evil, you know this is totally the case).
From then on there’s not really a break, it just unfolds quicker than fuck.
Love that movie.

@SpiderScooby: Right, the EU was was going strong by that point(or at least it felt like that).

The young Obi-Wan books?
Yeah, loved those books.
It gave us more Obi-Wan and  Qui-Gon, two of the good things about TPM .

I’ve never read those, and I need to go finish that game.

Kinda.
You had many different tracks(it wasn’t just limited to Tatooine) and different podracers you could race.

The creation of the clone army should have been the first movie, with Anakin as a kid being only a flashback.

ThatScoobyDoom: I stuck to the main novels, I kinda wish I would’ve tried some of those though because I always wanted more Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan.

She somehow manages to build her own little world within the galaxy and I’m telling you brother, it is awesome.
The game is pretty damn good too.

Yeah, that sounds great.

That would have been a way different trilogy for damn sure.
But I am really happy with what we got.

How about Rebels or The Clone Wars or any of the old series?
I know you’ve seen TCW, but have you seen any of the others?

@SpiderScooby: I would agree if Ep 2 was good, I would agree.
But they didn’t hit first base til Sith.

Clones Wars started off weak, but turned into a amazing series by the end.
Too bad we didn’t more of it.
Rebels is a lot of fun, this season has been killing it.

ThatScoobyDoom: We will have to agree to disagree on this one, my good sir.
I really love Phantom Menace.
If you wanna get sporty, I’d call I a double, II hitting a foul ball where the ball goes straight up, gets caught in the lights, then comes down and smacks you dead in the face, and III is a home run.

Fitz has said the same about early Clone Wars, but I dug it from the jump.
And from what I’ve heard of Rebels, it sounds amazing.
Hondo, Clones, yes please!

Did you see Droids or Ewoks?

@SpiderScooby: It’s more like that ball comes down, hits you in the face, and puts you to sleep.

I’m one of the 5 people who saw the Clone Wars movie in the theater. That movie is rough to get through.

It’s amazing though.
You have this new character, Ahsoka, who nobody liked at first but everyone loved by the end of the series.

I’ve avoided those like the plague. I’ve seen clips of them, and they just look cringe-worthy.

ThatScoobyDoom: Now you’re just splitting hairs, vod. Haha

It’s funny that every era has had a hated character.
But the OT and TCW eras hated characters were loved by the end of their runs.

They look cheesy as fuck, but I would love to see them.
Same for those 2 Ewok movies.

What do you think of everything you’ve seen thus far of Ep VII?

@SpiderScooby: You’ve seen bits of The Holiday Special, right?

I haven’t been more hyped for a movie.
New Star Wars, plus the original trio returning.
It should be amazing.
I’m trying to stay cautiously optimistic though just in case it sucks.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yes yes, unwatchable it is…but I would buy it if they put it out.

Funny, I gave that “cautiously optimistic” line to Fafa in her portion of this very Typecast. Lol

Besides Ep VII, what are you most looking forward too?
Movies, Shows, Comics, Novels, what has you the most excited?

@SpiderScooby: I don’t think I’ve seen the whole thing.

Rebels Season 2 is going on right now.
I hope we get that Ahsoka/Vader confrontation soon.

ThatScoobyDoom: I haven’t seen it all either.
I’ve seen the beginning, some of the Bea Arthur shit, and the Boba Cartoon…it’s just pure shit. Lol

Oh, shit yeah!
That is gonna be awesome.
I love Snips, and when she finally has to come face to face with what Anakin has become, I’m getting goosebumps just thinking about it.

Okay, final question.
What does Star Wars mean to you?

@SpiderScooby: The Boba Fett cartoon is probably the only good thing about it.

Do you think Ahsoka will die?

Star Wars is my favorite film series of all time.
It is the ultimate story of Good vs. Evil and redemption.

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s the only thing I saw.

Eventually, yeah.
Not sure if it will be in this season or even this series.
But I think she kinda has to, she seems to be essential to the rebellion.
Why wasn’t she in the OT?
After she confronts Vader, she will know who he is for sure.
Either he kills her, it drives her insane, or she joins him…and that ain’t happening.

Indeed it is.
A fairy tale exacerbated to monolithic proportions.

Next up is @CheeryAnt!

ThatScoobyDoom: How long have you been following the Saga?

@CheeryAnt: I vividly remember (and this is one of my first memories) my mom talking with my grandfather about the OT when I was 4 and I asked her “Who’s Yoda?” So she told me the story of Luke and the force.
I thought it was awesome!
We didn’t have the movies so I saw them almost a decade later.
I guess I started to follow when I was 13 so 7 years now.

ThatScoobyDoom: So you knew the story before seeing the movies?
Did that ruin or help you enjoy the movies better?

@CheeryAnt: Oh, it toootally ruined the *Darth Vader voice* “Luke, I am your father” surprise.
Which was awful!
But I didn’t know much detail about the rest.
To me was unexpected Obi-Wan and Yoda dying, the twins kissing (ew), Luke losing his hand.
I become a fan.

ThatScoobyDoom: I think almost everybody knows the Daddy reveal.
It’s been referenced to death for years. Haha

What was it about it that kept you hooked into it all?

@CheeryAnt Yeah, but I knew about the daddy reveal because of my mom, not because any movie/tv show reference.
It was totally ruined either way.

Han Solo… Haha just kidding.
(**Editor’s note** I had to do a slight edit here because an emoticon fucked up. Would have left half a page of blank screen.)

Nah, I really liked the concept of the Force, Jedi vs Sith.

I know for sure every SW fan, like myself,  have tried to move something using the force… Right?
Right?! XD

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, you would be correct.
I wave my hand at automatic doors all the time.

And here’s another tip, The Imperial March makes for great walking music.
You ever have to walk down a long hallway, get that pumping through your phone, and just walk.
It’s awesome!

Which, if at all, do you prefer, the PT or the OT and why?

@CheeryAnt: Never done that, I’m gonna have to try it haha I do go humming all the time though, especially when I get inside a house XD

Definitely the OT and just because,  in my opinion, there’s 2 problems with the PT:
First, acting is not so good.
I like the story, the characters (yes, even Jar Jar Binks, he’s so dumb that it’s funny) but definitely acting ruin them a bit. 
And second, there’s absolutely no “chemistry” between Padme and Anakin.
They look like 2 friends forced to be married.
With Han and Leia you know there’s love even when they’re pretending to hate each other and I don’t feel the love with Padme and Anakin, Doom.
I want to feel the love!
Haha
If it wasn’t for those 2 things, I’d love the PT as much as I love the OT.
You’re supposed to believe shit is happening for real and the actors didn’t make it in many of the scenes.

ThatScoobyDoom: *grabs shoulders, looks deep into eyes*
Fafa…Star Wars isn’t real…Wookiee’s is just tall guys in fur suits and raccoon eyed make-up.
XD

I sorta agree on the first, but totally agree on the second.
I can’t knock Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, or Natalie Portman’s acting.
Nor the voice acting of Ahmed Best or Frank Oz.
But the Anakin actors…have some…issues…
As for the second, that was forced as FUCK!

Have you seen The Clone Wars or Rebels?
Or any of the animated series for that matter?

@CheeryAnt: No, no!
That’s not true!
That’s impossible!

I’m personally not a fan of  MacGregor in The Phantom Manace, he was good in the other 2 though.
Jake Lloyd doesn’t bother me as much as Hayden Christensen, I’ve seen worse kids but Christensen totally fucked the amazing role.
And Portman failed with not making it look real too.

I’ve never seen not one bit of Rebels.
And just a few episodes of The Clone Wars, the ones you and Fitz talked about in the first typepod 🙂

ThatScoobyDoom: Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

Ewan is awesome in all 3, for my money.
Lloyd is a pain in the ass.
Like, the Toche Station line from Luke in A New Hope turned up to 11.
Hayden is good in 3 I think.
And as for Natalie, she’s Natalie, she rocks.

What did you think of that?

@CheeryAnt: Shut up, fucker! XD

Ha!
The kid from Anchorman 2 is a pain in the ass, Lloyd was not so bad.
Christensen is good in The Revenge Of The Sith, but there’s few things I don’t like of that one.
The perfect end of the beginning. 
Portman is great, she’s my woman crush but she failed me in that bit haha

I liked it a lot!
Just when I was looking for some Star Warsy stuff, you told me about how good it is (I’m a loser for not give it a shot years ago) and I saw a few eps.
Wish I could watch the rest.
BTW, I agree with you, Mace is an asshole in TCW, but Sam “mutherfucker” Jackson is too damn awesome to be hated as a motherfucking Jedi!

ThatScoobyDoom: No clue who that kid is, not seen Anchorman 2.
Most kid actors are annoying though, which is why I never make a big deal about Lloyd.

I wish I could see the rest too, I’ve seen a few eps from later seasons and it is just brilliant.
Find some way if you can and watch it all.
Ahsoka is such a great character.
And Rebels, I saw around half of season 1, it is just as good.

Damn straight about Mace.
But credit where credit is due, that was the good sir Fitz what made that revelation, I believe.
I was still drinking the Mace Kool-aid.

Okay, Episode VII, what do you think of everything we’ve seen so far?
Anything standing out for you?

@CheeryAnt: Don’t haha or do but don’t expect much. 
That’s my point, he’s just a baby.

Indeed.
Padawan Tano was one of my favorite characters.
Will try to watch both somehow.

Ugh, I couldn’t remember if it was you or Fitz that said it and I was thinking “damn right! What an asshole he is!”

I’m scared, as anyone else (I guess), that J.J will fucked this up.
I tried to keep it down with the teasers release but when I saw the them, honestly, I cried.
I still do… but just a bit.
I’m a big girl.
It’s so exciting to think I’m gonna see Star Wars in a movie theater!
Now I’m really just hoping it will be good.

ThatScoobyDoom: I hated the first, I won’t waste my time. Lol

I think you are correct in thinking that, I know quite a few folks are scared JJ is gonna shit the bed.
The scarier part is that it’ll be a while before we know if he has or not, because whether it sucks or not, this movie is gonna rake in cash.

Yeah, I may have gotten a wee bit misty during the full trailers.
But they were more thrilling than anything, goosebumps for all of them.
Any new shot has the same effect.

Besides EP VII, what are you most looking forward too from the franchise?
One of the Stand Alone movies, the other Saga movies, a book, something else?

@CheeryAnt: Well, there’s idiots that didn’t like the PT.
So I suppose that even if the new saga is outstanding, there’s gonna be people shitting on it.
So I’m just hoping those morons will be wrong.

I bet you cried like a little baby haha
It gets me every time.

Rogue One… Definitely excited about that one.

ThatScoobyDoom: Agreed.
Cautiously optimistic is how I’m going in.
Hope for the best, prepare forcthe worst.

YES!!!
Me too, that sounds like it will be great!
The Han movie doesn’t have you all a quiver?

@CheeryAnt: Exactly!

Indeed.
Yeah, sure.
Curious who will play Han.
I can’t imagine someone that’s not Harrison Ford doing it.
Hopefully they’ll choose wisely.

ThatScoobyDoom: This is very true.
There is only 1 clear choice…Shia Labouf.

Okay, final question.
On a personal level, what does Star Wars mean to you?

@CheeryAnt: Shia Labublafle can suck my ass.

My grandfather was the only one that brought joy and laughter when I was little and even when I didn’t see the movies until I was 13, we used to talk and joke about it.
After he died, Star Wars was mostly what I remembered of my time with him.
Seeing those movies make me happy.
It reminds me of the good old times.

Up now is @SteBoost

ThatScoobyDoom: How far back do you go with the saga?
What are your earliest memories of it all?

@SteBoost: The first thing I definitely remember was going to the local Cinema to watch Empire.
I can’t remember what year but it was a small town single screen in England so it could have easily been ’82.
It seemed to be a big deal but I think at age 3 I was a little too young to appreciate it all.
I do remember the Hoth battle being amazing & Yoda smacking R2 with a stick was funny as all hell but that’s about it.

The real start would have been Ep.4 being the big Christmas movie on TV and despite being pretty poor we had a VCR so it got the honor of being one of the 3 or 4 tapes we had so we watched the shit out of it. 

It was impossible back then to know how big a deal it was but when school started after the holidays every kid was either Luke or Darth, Not many kids wanted to be Han at the time but that might reflect the rural village upbringing we had, Luke was just more relateable & that iconic shot of him looking to the horizon at the two suns of Tatooine is one that definitely struck a powerful chord. 

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh, so you go that far back?
I can totally see small town kids loving Luke more than Han.
Han may be cool, but who can’t see themself as Luke?

Episode IV is not a Christmas movie though…The Wizard Of Oz, now THAT is a Christmas movie.

What about it hooked you in?

@SteBoost: Yeah I’m an old fart, not quite Fitzman old but old enough.

After thinking on it I dont think it was any one thing that hooked me in.
It really was the film that had it all.

The world is just so rich and filled, like not just right in front of the camera but all the little stuff going on in the background it made it feel lived in.
The story’s perfect, It’s simple really ya know, boy gets sent by his destiny to fight the evil wizard and save the princess.
It’s basic as all hell but what kid doesn’t dream of that exact thing.

The score too has to have played a big part, I think I was too young to realize it but I remember I used to replay the medal ceremony part over and over and it giving me chills.
As an adult I still think that particular part of the score is the most powerful in the whole trilogy and Princess Leia giving those looks right down the camera in that scene probably didn’t hurt either, she made me want to do something, I didn’t know what at that age but I knew whatever it was I wanted to do it a lot

ThatScoobyDoom: HAHAHA!!!

And playing off of what you said about the lived in feel and the score, the music and sound design lends itself to that with the way the they edited it.
Look at the Cantina scene specifically, the volume of the band changes as they cut around the whole bar.
It’s a subconscious way of subtly drawing you into it, it makes you feel like you are in the world.

As you say, much like Fitz, you were a part of that first generation of fans, so how did YOU feel about the prequels?

@SteBoost: I saw episode 1 in the cinema and I thought it was ok but not quite right somehow. 

It had some great bits in it like the Darth Maul fight & the improved lightsaber action in general that makes any ep4-6 fight look painfully slow.
In fact most of the action scenes are great but The over reliance on CG (as good as it was) hurt that feeling of danger & suspense quite a bit, It was sooo pretty but I didn’t feel for the characters anything like the ones from the OG films. 

I think part of it comes from so many of them are quite emotionless due to character, The Jedi is obvious but then you have Princess Amidala with her need to be stolid and regal, Palpatine is the same & Darth Maul is kickass but also very contained & this leads to somthing even Jar Jars antics & lil Anikins enthusiasm can’t drown out. 

Having seen some of the behind the scenes & other breakdown videos I think Lucas got stuck behind a wall of “yes men” who just went with whatever he said.
Where as back in the day he was in charge but he wasn’t this god like creator of the holy trilogy and people probably made suggestions or pointed out issues on Episode 1-3 right from the get go it’s him saying “what if we do this” and 20 people going “sure thing Mr Lucas” he’s good but even the best in the world need some checks & balances to prevent things getting messy & confusing.
For example one of them has 5 or 6 different things going on at the same time during the climax it’s just too much to take in comfortably where as Jedi had 3 (Endor, The attack on the 2nd Death Star & luke VS Vader & the Emperor)

A lot of people really blame Lucas & the prequels have become a bit of a joke more than they deserve.
I still get the feeling there is a good movie or two in them if someone could trim a lot of the mess of the edges.
It seems to be a generational thing, we wanted our childhood back but we didnt quite get it.
The spinoffs seem to be more universally liked but as for the prequels You young un’s seem to like them much more any take as to why?

ThatScoobyDoom: My take on it is simple.
The kids of the prequels grew up post T2, post Batman 89…ya know what, fuck 89!
We had Batman The Animated Series every day or every week on TV.
Think about it, when you guess grew up you had, as much as I love it, limited animation like Hanna-Barbera and hokey effects.
We had shit that took what you grew up on and made it look 100 times better.
So the OT, in comparison, is boring.
And some take that as me saying “fuck the original trilogy” which IS NOT the case.
I’ve said many times that I love all 6 movies, but there is no denying the prequels are better made.
Better sets, better effects, better everything with the exception of maybe acting.

The other thing would be the pace.
I’ve used this analogy before and it totally fits.
Look at any episode of Scooby-Doo back then and see how relaxed it is.
There are long periods of silence and whatnot.
Then look at any episode of Mystery Incorporated, the pace is breakneck.
No silence what so ever.
Always somebody talking or an explosion or some sort of action happening.
To your point, stuff from back in the day took it’s time, and as boring as the taxation shit may be, it was another part of a hugely layered story.
They call it sophistication, but it’s just a synonym for busy.
Every year it seems Movies and TV Shows feel they have to be more and more complex to grab attention.

I think that’s totally the case, though I think the majority of George’s ideas were great.

I think I asked Fitz this once, I want your thoughts.
Why do you think Star Wars and Indiana Jones are the only franchises that folks get pissy about CG with?
Nobody cares in superhero movies, Lord Of The Rings, Harry Potter, or anything else, but Lucas puts CG in Star Wars and people lose their fuckin’ minds!

@SteBoost: One of the things with CG is if you can see it it’s somewhat failed. 

This is definitely the case in Crystal Skull.
The gopher?
They coulda bluescreened it and it would have probably looked better.

The other is it’s kinda breaking the universe (again especially if it’s a bit wonky) everything in EP4-6 and Indy 1-3 is a real prop and that sets a kind of unwritten rule.
It also stands the test of time much better than digital stuff.
It’s all about being believable.
The scooby movies for example the CG in them is so cartoony you cant not see it but people are expecting a cartoon so it gets a mental pass.

CG is almost unspottable for space battles, the extra X-wings they added for the enhanced EP4 went completely unnoticed but Jabba? That looks ropey as hell especially a few years after the fact. 

AS for new franchises such as LOTR & the marvel movies etc, I think they’ve have CG as a rule from the word go and it’s used well, it’s not being used as everything. 

A lot of the sets are real, The CG is top of the line.
I even suspect part of the choice of IronMan for the first marvel movie was that some amount of unnatural movement would be unconcuiosly forgiven & seen as “The suit”.

 Lucas embraced it, He innovated it and drove the tech forward but at the same time he helped expose the limitations and drawbacks of CG.

ThatScoobyDoom: I get all that, but as everybody always reminds me, times change.
The OT broke new ground for damn sure, why folks gotta jam their digital dicks in the dudes mouth for trying out a new technology?

As I’ve said before, without Lucas pushing CG (even if the CG he used looks out of date now) you don’t have the Harry Potter, Lord Of The Rings, Iron Man, Avengers, Spider-Man franchises, and I highly doubt Video Games would look as good as they do now.

And on top of all of that, I honestly think that practical effects age badly the same way CG ones do.
Yes, CG Jabba looks like shit…but the practical Jabba in Jedi is goofy looking too, I love it but it’s laughable now!

What did you think of 2 and 3 after 1 sort of changed the perception of what Star Wars was?

@SteBoost: I can see your point with the CG VS practical I think it’s probably something to do with the amount of time older fans have lived with the way the practical looks even if it’s a little poor here and there it’s all consistent & the mix that is in EP1 was jarring to us grumpy old sticks in the mud. 

As for the other 2 movies I think they really turn it around.
Episodes 2 & 3 are far better I think.

2 was my introduction to the clone wars.
Having not read any of the books etc it suddenly got interesting.
When Obi wan finds Geonosis & the army of Fett based clones combined with seeing Palpatine’s political maneuverings It really made you think this is going to be the huge galactic conflict you felt it was from when it was mentioned in the OG trilogy,.
They never gave much detail but it felt like it was a massive part of history. 

It still had some flaws.
The rigid Amidala/Anakin love story falls sooo flat.
Dont get me wrong Portman is a great actor (Christensen is OK in other stuff I’ve seen too) but the triple whammy of stilted dialogue, their character traits of having to be reserved and “proper” & the fact that together they have all the chemistry of a portapotty make it almost embarrassing to watch back.

That’s probably my only real gripe with ep2 (apart from continued excess CG) The Jango Fett fight was good and they even made me buy the Yoda fight.
It all runs along nicely and having the ominous ending of all the clones and early star destroyers really made me want to see episode 3. 

Episode 3 Is the best of the prequels (IMHO) You can see how everything is “coming up empire” but no one seems to be able see it or do anything about it.
The Empire has always been an analogy of the Nazis & knowing that, watching it happen even in a fantasy setting adds a potent sinister tone to the film.
Storywise too it’s a big step in the right direction, most of the actors get chances to emote and even Anakin stops being “mannequin” Skywalker.
While that’s not good for anyone around him (especially any padawans) it helped me start giving a shit and actually engage with the characters.
I guess its a weird paradox, People love the Jedi & want more of them but put them front & center and unless they are kicking asses they have a distinct lack of personality. 

It’s a pretty great film and any gripes I have (asides from the legendary “NOOOOOOOO”) are minor.
I’d like to have seen Grevious fleshed out more (maybe they did in the spin offs I haven’t seen them), He seems like a really good character but with so much else going on I guess they didn’t have time.
It does have a bit of “Pirates of the Caribbean syndrome” you get who’s side your on but sometimes in all the plot threads you can be a bit confused as to why. 

The big Obi Wan Vs Anakin battle was to me a little over the top but that might be because of all the other action going on and not their specific fight, but one thing it definitely was guilty of was ropey CG.
They never look like they are really there.
It’s almost as bad as Episode 4 (before it got restored) you can see this area around them that looks added on & the lighting is off, A minor issue but with that much screen time & being one of the most critical moments of the flick it did drag me out if it a bit. 

On the whole I think episode 2 & 3 get tarred with the EP 1 brush more than they deserve and several of the criticisms that get thrown at them could honestly be applied to the OG trilogy if people were willing to be equally cynical.

ThatScoobyDoom: 1 last thing I want to mention and then we can drop the entire CG Vs practical thing.
But I was thinking about it and nobody seems to care about Godzilla going CG.
You made a fair point that the other franchises I mention all had CG from the jump, but Godzilla started as a dude in a suit tearing up a cardboard miniature set.
But nobody seems to care.
They bitch about the shitty stories, but CG never comes up.
The recent Planet Of The Apes movies come to mind too.

I’m always surprised that Episode 1 always gets so much shit, there are whole sections of 2 that are like a gigantic Pixar movie.
And I will say, 2 is my least favorite of the entire saga…so far.
It had great concepts, but it is too boring.
The Obi-Wan/Fett stuff is cool, but drawn out.
The Anakin/Padme stuff is just a turd in the punchbowl, drags the whole thing down.
If not for that last half hour to 45 minutes, I’d probably not watch it again.

Depending on the day, but more often than not, 3 is my favorite of the franchise.
I love that end fight.
It has that pace and ferocity that I want to see in a heated battle.
For my money, that is the best fight of the saga.
The OT fights are too slow.

Based on what you said, I’m guessing you haven’t watched The Clone Wars?
Cause the 1st 2 seasons cover Grevious pretty good, give you a bit of backstory and some great action.
As Fitz and I have said many times, that series makes the prequels way better.
Definitely check that out.
And while I’ve only seen the first half of season 1, get in on Rebels too…but watch TCW first.

What have you seen from 7 that has peaked your interest the most?

@SteBoost: I really love that we don’t know much from it at all.
It’s what a trailer should be, It’s a taster not a list of plot points (I’m looking at you The Martian trailer!)

You get an idea about some the characters but almost no idea how it all fits together ya know, It leaves you wanting to know what it’s all about: 

Who’s that in the wrecked Star destroyer? 

How did Finn end up as a storm trooper? 

What’s happened since Episode 6?

Has the galaxy gone to shit?

What’s going on with that gnarly badass Lightsaber?

WAS THAT DARTH VADER’S HEAD?

Then that score hits the peak (great choice to not go with the main theme) The Falcon spirals in, Han says it’s all real, then even a cynical old bugger like me gets choked up a bit & I have to go change my pants again.

So er.. Whats peaked my interest the most? 

It looks like they might be able to pull off the impossible.
Take what’s great about both trilogies, pay tribute to the past & push the whole thing forward to some whole new place that we don’t even know about yet, but have the distinct pleasure of getting to find out.

So if you’ll excuse me I’m going to watch those trailers again.

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s what’s exciting to me, they seem to have blended the best parts of both trilogies.
The pace of the prequels and the story/characters of the originals.

Shit, at this point we’ve only seen roughly 10 minutes of the movie, and yesterday they told us the runtime is 136 minutes.
We’ve not even seen 10%.
And folks are bitching about not seeing Luke, can you believe it?

So, besides Ep VII, what are you looking forward to most?
Stand Alone movies, a Comic, the rest of the Saga movies, what?

@SteBoost: The luke thing is interesting.
I’ve read a doze rumors about him already so its best to say no-one seems to have the definitive answer so it’ll be nice to just wait and see how/if they introduce him. 

Besides the flick probably the biggest thing I’m hoping for a new Knights of the old republic game. 

BioWare have made two of them but it’s been a few years since then (they have made the entire Mass Effect saga since) and a new adventure set in the Episode 7 universe would be fantastic. Perhaps set in the time between episodes 6 and 7 so it wont interfere in any film plots and run the risk of sucking as a result.
I’m a big exponent of the idea of setting the game in the same universe as the film but keep the story totally separate, Games that do this tend to be the better ones as they are such a different medium, and if nothing else expanding the universe is always cool too.

The stand alone movies sound like a great idea, Again it’s expanding the universe & if it all goes tits up it’s not to the detriment of the core movies, but I get the feeling they have learned enough from Marvel to make them work. 

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, and I don’t understand the folks bitching we haven’t seen Luke.
It’s like, you fuckers bitch if they show everything in the trailers…but then these same assholes will bitch if they try to leave some shit for the theater.
Make up your goddamn minds people!

KotOR probably won’t happen, but I do miss that era.
That first game was brilliant!
I could see them doing a game like that though for the new era.

The general consensus for the other Typecasters thus far is that Rogue One is the most anticipated of the stand-alones.
It does sound fun and interesting.

@SteBoost: A little twatty bit of me would kinda like it if it turns out Luke’s not even in ep7. 

I’m kinda trying to keep my head down a bit so I get each flick fresh, so I’m not up to speed on it beyond that teaser I saw a while back but I can’t see Rouge one not being great.
Having standalones that are in the universe but perhaps not directly connected gives them some great leeway to do something different & it’s gotta help with the writing of the main films, not so much temptation to throw everything that sounds cool into them, they can… stay on target so to speak but we still get some cool alt story line.

The roll Marvel is on just gives me a feeling that they’ve got it figured out.
Having that level of experience to call on can’t hurt.

As for a new KotOR?
Trust me, before episode 8 is out it’ll be happening.
There is a big fat cash cow just sat in the field just ready to be milked. 

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh, there ain’t no way in hell that would happen!
People would be fucking PISSED, dude. Lol

Kind of like they did on The Clone Wars.
On there they did Godzilla episodes, horror, mad scientists, every genre was explored from what I hear.

Of all the stuff Marvel has put out, I’ve only read 5 issues total, but I’ve loved it.
And the opening to the first issue of Star Wars was brilliant!
Double page spread crawler.
I loved that.

I think they may do a game like that, but I doubt it would be KotOR III.
I don’t think they are interested in that era right now.
Their interest is almost exclusively focused in just before Ep IV and forward.

Okay, this is my final question for you, man.
What does Star Wars mean to you?

@SteBoost: What doe’s It mean to me?
Hmm, It’s like that dependable awesome rock star uncle.
The one that you sometime don’t see very often but was a huge influence for the better when you were young.
No one else came close, even if he was a little hokey at times he’s always make you feel that all was going to be ok and right in the world. 

Someone once pretended to be him at a party one time about 15 years ago, That asshole touched you and made you feel bad and you hated on him for a long time. 

But now?
He’s really back and he’s bringing presents and it’s going to be awesome to see him again.
We can remissness about back in the day & hear about all the wild crazy adventures he’s been on while I’ve been doing boring grown up life things. 

I cant wait to dust off the old toys and play space wizards with him again… its been too long.

Our penultimate conversation, with @ShariSayz

ThatScoobyDoom: How far back do you go with Star Wars, where does your fandom for the saga come from?

@ShariSayz: I don’t remember exactly when it started, but it probably would have been between the ages of 12-14. 
I remember growing up and knowing that the Star Wars movies were a Big Deal, but I hadn’t actually seen them up until then.
At some point during that time period, they re-released the original trilogy in theatres, one at a time.
My best friend at the time (Jordan) and I, both burgeoning film buffs at the time, went to see all three of them on their opening nights.
Growing up in a post-Jurassic Park era, I was a little let down by how dated the films looked, but I was pulled in by the story and I remember feeling like we were participating in a rite of passage – like it was important to go see them in a proper theatre.
I’ve seen them again a few times over the years, in various situations.
They usually do a marathon on Space around this time of year so it’s sort of become a tradition to re-watch them.
I think my appreciation for both the movies and the legacy grew deeper the older I got, especially after seeing more films from that era and realizing how ahead of their time those original movies truly were.

ThatScoobyDoom: Wow, that is eerily similar to me, with 1 exception.
I saw those rereleases before the prequels came out and it didn’t grab me.
As I’ve said in other parts of this Typecast, this was post-Batman:TAS, I like 6-8 and was used to a different level of action.
At that age, these were boring old timey movies, I remember fallin asleep during the speeder bike chase in Jedi so many times.
I had to grow up a bit as a movie fan to appreciate them.

What was it that wrangled you in and made you really call yourself a fan?

@ShariSayz: That’s a good question… When I re-watched them as an adult, it was during a time in my life when I was feeling the need for something more.
At the time I was either just married or about to be (don’t remember exactly when this was), working a 9-5 and living in the suburbs, and to be honest I was bored out of my mind.
I’ve always been a sucker for a good “hero journey” story, and I think that’s what really pulled me in.
Luke was just this kid, living his life and thinking he was no one special, then he got swept up in this epic battle against the forces of evil, found this whole new pseudo-family, discovered he had secret powers and basically saved the galaxy.
He went from farm kid to Jedi hero in three movies.
I guess it spoke to that same part of me that wanted to run away to Narnia as kid – the part that always hoped that one day someone would scoop me up and take me on a grand adventure.
Also they had cool robots, lol.

ThatScoobyDoom: Until like 3 years ago, those stories were done, did you ever wish for more from the original group?

And how did you feel about the prequels?

@ShariSayz: I don’t remember ever wanting more from the original group.
I felt like the story wrapped up perfectly, and they told what needed to be told.
Actually, when they announced the prequels, I was very much against them.
Although to be fair, I was an arrogant teenager at this point.
I just thought the entire concept of a “prequel” was unnecessary.
I didn’t feel like every detail needed to be explained, and I liked that there was a bit of mystery involved.
It left room for us as the viewers to sort of fill in the blanks ourselves.
I actually refused to see the prequels for years as a form of personal (and completely pointless) protest. 

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s interesting.
Because I’ve seen quite a few (including Fitz in one of the early Typecasts) say they felt a slight depression when it was over.
Like friends had died or something.

And what did you think when you finally broke down and watched them?

@ShariSayz: I get that, I felt the same way when the last Harry Potter movie came out.
I think maybe because by the time I actually got to Star Wars, it was already over and no one expected there to be more.

To be honest, I found the prequels underwhelming.
I don’t hate them the way some people do, I just didn’t find them as interesting, although I feel like I should probably revisit them with a fresh mind.
There was some cool stuff in the last one, though.
I think the scene where they put the Vader mask on Anakin was totally worth the journey. 

ThatScoobyDoom: I felt the same way about Potter, but more so with the books than the movies.
Even though the movies are what lead me to the books, at least lead to my love of them, and I do have a huge crush on Emma Watson.
But I get your point.

And I think the reason the people who actually like the Prequels but felt underwhelmed by them like you did feel that way because the Prequels are like the Titanic.
You know Anakin is gonna hit the iceberg, for the story to be told he has too.
But I like to to cognitively reframe it a bit and think of the journey rather then the destination.
Take the long view and look at the saga as a whole.

And what might improve your enjoyment is The Clone Wars, have you seen any of that series?

@ShariSayz: You make a good point.
A lot of the suspense is gone when you know how the story is going to end.
But yeah, I’ll definitely give them another shot before at some point, hopefully before the new one comes out if I have time.
And no, I haven’t seen any of The Clone Wars.
That one takes place in between the two sets of film, right?

ThatScoobyDoom: Clone Wars takes place between 2 and 3.
It’s a great series and sheds a lot of new light on the entire saga, but even without that aspect it’s a beautiful series.
I’ve never been big on CG Animation on TV, but this rocked.

I really think you’d love Rebels though.
It’s set 5 years before A New Hope, has quite a few Clone Wars characters, but I think you can enjoy it on it’s own.

So, what are you most looking forward to beyond Ep VII?
The rest of the Saga films, one of the stand alones, or something else?

@ShariSayz: I’m cautiously optimistic about the new saga films.
I’m scared to get my hopes up, but so far everything I’ve seen looks amazing (and I just heard a new rumour that I really, really hope is true because it could be so interesting).
But if we don’t get to see a lady Jedi wield a light sabre in this new one, I’m going to be super bummed out.
But apparently Princess Leia is now General Leia, which I LOVE.
I’m definitely really looking forward to seeing the old characters pop back up again.
I’m kind of taking a wait and see approach with all this, but I would definitely go see a stand alone movie about a young Han Solo, if they do one.

ThatScoobyDoom: Cautiously Optimistic is the theme of this Typecast.
That’s how everybody, myself included, is trying to go in.

***SPOILER ALERT***
What’s the rumor?

If you want lady Jedi, The Clone Wars is definetly for you.
Luminara Unduli, Padawan Ahsoka, Aayla Secura, Bariss Offee, and I’m sure there are many more I can’t remember.
Then there is Count Dooku’s Apprentice Asajj Ventress on the Dark Side.
There’s plenty of Saber carrying badass females in the galaxy.

About Leia, I always thought there could be Alderaan survivors out in the galaxy that she could rally to the rebellion and be their Queen.
General? Yes!
But I got the feeling she probably had that title once Alderaan went kablooey, because it’s clear she holds rank in the rebellion with how she acts in Return of the Jedi.

Young Han is happening.
They’re struggling to cast him now. Lol

@ShariSayz: ***SPOILER ALERT***
The rumour is that Luke went Dark Side and he’s the main villain, which is why he hasn’t been seen in any of the ads so far.
I think that would certainly be an interesting take, and given the family history, not completely outside the realm of possibility.
I don’t even remember where I heard it, and there’s nothing to back it up so it could be completely wrong.
But I think Luke would be so much more interesting as a villain, and we all know Hamill is totally capable of being a badass.

Clone Wars sounds awesome.
Next time I need a good binge watch, I’ll definitely check it out.

I hope they find someone good for young Han.
I think heard something about Aaron Taylor-Johnson but I’m not sure he has the swagger.
I always feel like it’s better to go with a lesser known actor for these iconic characters.
The character himself has so much history behind it, I’m not sure you need a big name.
And sometimes it’s better to do without the baggage that a more famous actor might bring.
It’ll be interesting to see who they pick, that’s for sure.

ThatScoobyDoom: Ah, that has been around since the jump.
That’s something that I flip flop on, cause it feels like it would cheapen Luke’s journey from IV-VI.
But it would be cool.

I can’t recommend it enough.

Yeah, if you get Chris Pratt or Bradly Cooper (both were rumored for Indy when the talk was that would be recast) they bring way too much to the point they’d both be distracting.
ATJ…Kick-Ass?
I can’t think of anybody I would pick to take up the role.
But I heard they have gone through 2500 actors and still haven’t found the right man.

@ShariSayz: I kind of felt the same about Luke being a villain, in that it would take away from his journey, but I think if they made it a story about redemption it could work.
Like if they were able to save him from the Dark Side in the way that he couldn’t do for his father, it would be a nice full circle moment.
Now that it’s in my head it’s kind of all I want.
But I guess we’ll have to wait and see…

I would totally be into Chris Pratt as Indy, but not Han.
I love Chris Pratt, but he’s always very… Chris Pratt-y.
He never really disappears into the role for me.
I can’t think of anyone I would pick for the role either.
I feel like they’re going to find the guy bussing tables at some diner in Ohio or something.
I’m glad that they’re being thorough though.
I can’t even imagine the amount of pressure on the guy who eventually gets it.
Talk about some big shoes to fill.

ThatScoobyDoom: I agree.
It would be a very compelling story.
But I’m not sure.
I’m trying not to dig too deep on it.
I want to think they might be keeping Luke from us solely because they don’t want to reveal everything before the 18th.
They want some mystery, something to keep casual fans intrigued.

I don’t think I’ve seen Pratt in anything, but I’m glad that Harrison is keeping that role.
Fuck recasting, Indy ain’t Batman or James Bond.
But as for the Solo movie, I wonder if they would do something like what is up with the next Die Hard and have Ford in a sort of wrap around story with some young kid running around has young Han.

Okay, my final question for you.
On a personal level, what does Star Wars mean to you?

@ShariSayz: That’s a good question.
I’ve been thinking about this, trying to put it into words.
When you look at the actual narrative of the films, there’s the idea that good can conquer evil, so matter how stacked the odds.
There’s also the idea that family doesn’t have to be blood (or, in this case, human).
Actually, those are both very important themes in most of the stories that I’m particularly drawn to. 

On a different level, I think there’s also this secret handshake quality of being a Stars Wars fan.
For a long time, there’s was this idea that it was “for nerds”, and there are probably still people who will scoff at it, but in a way, that’s helped us nerds find each other.
It created sort of a cultural clubhouse.
Star Wars isn’t just a movie series, there’s an entire subculture built around it – one that contains a universe of references, inside jokes and pretty sweet merchandise.
I think that’s also a big part of why I’m drawn to it, because it helps to build a connection to other people with similar interests and values. 

And finally, here’s @Fitzman73

ThatScoobyDoom: Way back in the very 1st Typecast, and in a few since, you told us about you and your dad kind of bonding a bit over Star Wars.
That got me wondering, has he seen anything from TFA?

@Fitzman73: Yeah he’s seen some, I think I showed him the first trailer.
Didn’t get too much of a reaction, but then again that’s not surprising.
I asked him on Thanksgiving, so what day are we going to see Star Wars and he was like huh?
I said it comes out the 18th what day are we going?  Ha.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, folks of his generation tend to be more reserved.
Not as excitable as yours, mine, and this new crop of bastards.

Would you call him more of a casual fan?

@Fitzman73: Yeah I would say casual at best.
He definitely doesn’t know the name of the Ewok shaman or that there is a Kyber crystal inside a lightsaber.  

Westerns are his Star Wars.
He has an unhealthy obsession with them.

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh christ, my Dad is the same way.
Always with the fuckin’ westerns.

What is that like for you as a hardcore fan?
Because, I mean, clearly you both share a love for it, but your love is more “hopelessly, head over heels”.
Do you ever whip out Kyber crystal at him and he reaches for holy water to get the demon out of ya?
Cause that’s how most folks I know react to me.

@Fitzman73: No, haven’t gone terribly hard core on him since I was a kid.
I’m sure I annoyed the shit out of him back then though.
He likes them but he’s much more in the “dude it’s just a movie” camp. 

I think most of his enjoyment probably came from me enjoying them and having it be something we went to see together.

ThatScoobyDoom: With that in mind, has he watched any of TCW or Rebels?
Or is he like my Dad in that respect “cartoons are baby shit”?

@Fitzman73: No he’s not like that, but he hasn’t watched any either I don’t think.
He might’ve watched some by accident with my nephew, but he definitely hasn’t sought it out.

It’s crazy, but literally if it’s not a western (the older the better), local news, or something the grandkids are watching, it basically doesn’t exist in his world. Lol.

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh, I know that so well, sir. Hahaha

Let’s switch gears a bit, you and I have talked about a lot of it privately, but lets go over a wee bit of it.
What have you thought of a lot of the stuff we’ve seen from TFA since last we talked about it?

@Fitzman73: So far it all looks great.
But honestly I’m over the trailers and TV spots.
They’re starting to get pretty maddening since they seem to recycling a lot of the same footage.
I mean I get why they’re so calculated in what they’re allowing people to see ahead of time, but it’s a little too much of a cock tease to keep releasing new spots several times a week and showing 90% of the same stuff over and over.
At this point I’m just ready for the entire film.
Stop fucking around already and let’s just get it on.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yeah, I’m seeing that reaction quite a bit.
With the way they’re doing that, it’s making people feel like it’s further away than it really is, upping the anticipation too high too soon.

What that’s been released to the mainstream had peaked your interest the most since last we talked?

@Fitzman73: The stuff about Maz Kanada probably.
I wasn’t that interested in her before but now that they’ve said she has a special gift and is thousands of years old?
I gotta know more

ThatScoobyDoom: Oh yes, and the potential ramifications of that life span?
That gift?
Damn dude!
It sounds like Maz has seen some shit.

They’ve peaked my interest in Snoke, too.
A giant dude played by Andy Serkis?
That has potential to be astonishing.

I also wonder about Von Sydow, we know next to nothing about him beyond the fact that his character and Daisy’s Rey have some sort of special connection.

@Fitzman73: I just read something that would seem to contradict that 25 foot high Snoke claim that Serkis said awhile back.
The guy actually doing the CG said 7 foot something and very thin?

Oh and fuck what I just said.
THIS has me the most interested …

https://m.facebook.com/SWActionNews/photos/pcb.10153388820497153/10153388820257153/?type=3&source=48

ThatScoobyDoom: That’s still pretty damn big, unless you spend a lot of time in circuses, wrestling locker rooms, or around basketball courts.

Lemme just throw another ***SPOILER ALERT*** on here, just for shits and giggles.

HOLY SHIT, DUDE!!!
Is that her staff as you’ve previously guessed?

@Fitzman73: No, looks like Luke’s blue saber to me.
Which begs the question, was Harrison Ford fucking around on that twitter Q&A the other week when he said his favorite action scene was the Rey vs. Ren lightsaber duel or was it for real?

Also, this makes me think Finn may lose a hand….

ThatScoobyDoom: This has been something the 2 of us have struggled with since it happened.
If he just let it slip in an interview then he woulda faced an NDA fine. But something like the Twitter Q&A he had to have PR folks up his ass clearing answers before he hit send tweet.
So, I guess he wasn’t bullshittin’.

I can see why.
But picture this, Rey finds the blade, gives it to Leia, who gives it to Finn.
Let the dude keep his gorram hand.
3PO lost his arm, ain’t that enough?

@Fitzman73: It’s the law of Star Wars bro.
Every film has at least one dismemberment by lightsaber.
It’s a fact.

Ep I: Maul is cut in half
Ep II: Anakin loses an arm, Jango loses a head
Ep III: Dooku loses both hands and his head, Mace loses an arm, Anakin loses both legs and his good arm
Ep IV: Walrus man loses an arm
Ep V: Luke loses a hand
Ep VI: Vader loses a cyborg arm

So I’d say the chances are favorable that at least someone is gonna be an amputee after this.

Of course you do make a good point, it could be there because she supposedly finds it originally.
EXCEPT.
This isn’t a Rey on Jakku figure now is it?
This is presumably after she’s joined the resistance. 

I don’t know, this could go so many directions it’d mind boggling.
The possibilities, for now, are just about endless. 

If it turns out that those 2 do in fact fight, you better believe that was no accident that he let it “slip”.
Like I said it was either him trolling as a goof, or a very premeditated and blessed answer.
A tantalizing nugget to stir the pot.

ThatScoobyDoom: I know, man. Haha

I don’t know.
The figure looks like her Jakku gear.
But the card image’s gear looks darker, more polished, sophisticated.

That there is for true indeed though.
Endless possibilities and who knows what was behind him letting that slip.

Just for a bit, I wanna shift to the comics.
Have you been keeping up with ’em?

@Fitzman73: One last not on that figure, it does literally say Resistance outfit on it.
But as far as costumes, it’s probably just what she’s wearing under her flowy Jakku kit.

I’ve kept up with the comics a bit.
There’s kind of a content overload at the moment for me personally.
Too much shit all at once.
I did read the Force Awakens prelude mini series which is good but mostly a huge cock tease.
And I picked up the first collection of the new Star Wars series.
Prior to the TBP, I’d only read issue 1 of that series and felt it was so-so.
It gets much better and more interesting as it goes along.

ThatScoobyDoom: I didn’t even notice that.
Good eye.

So nothing earth shattering happening…yet in the comics?
I dug that first issue of Star Wars.
I used walmart as a library the other night and read the first issue of Kanan, that was fuckin’ awesome!

Speaking of huge cock teases, and so we don’t spoil it, we should let the folks know we will be breaking down Shattered Empire at some point.

@Fitzman73: Yeah Kanan is on my list.
I think it’s in trade now too.

The art in that Star Wars series is awesome.
I dug the first issue too, I guess I was just expecting more or something.
But the plot does thicken in subsequent issues. 

The other titles I’m honestly not that interested in.
Although I’ve heard they’re good.
Maybe some day I’ll get to them.

ThatScoobyDoom: It is in trade, that’s how I read it.
I really really dug it.
I’ve read many stories where the moment happens, and it’s awesome everytime.
“The time has come, execute Order 66.”
Chilling.

That first issue has my favorite opening to a comic ever.
2 page STAR WARS is a great way to kick off a new era.

The Lando and Chewie books looked great.
I’m so damn interested in the Obi-Wan/Anakin book, I’ve always craves more stories from that time period.

2 questions before I hit you with the final.
1. How do you feel about 3PO having 2 gold legs now?
2. What are you most looking forward to other than VII?

@Fitzman73: Aw fuck I forgot about the Anakin Obi-Wan book.
That looks awesome.
That one I’m interested in.
Is that early next year?

Believe it or not, I didn’t realize he was back to having 2 gold legs.
I was too distracted by that red arm.
I can’t wait to see if there’s some reason given for it or if it’s just left to our imagination.
But the gold legs don’t bother me.
They were both gold in episode 3 too I believe.

What am I looking forward too besides episode 7?
I’m looking forward to the back half of Rebels season 2.
They’ve really taken things up a notch this season and I can’t wait for the inevitable confrontation between Vader and *****SPOILERS***** Ahsoka.
Especially since they’ve made it clear that both parties know the other is alive and well.
They’re actively hunting and spying on each other.

ThatScoobyDoom: Yes!
I think February or March.
Not sure if it’s 4 issues or longer.

There is a 1 shot comic coming out this month that explains the Red Arm.
Yeah, he had 2 golds in Sith.
When I recently saw a pic that had 2 gold legs, I gotta admit, I was a little let down.
I like the idea that after 60 years, 3PO is a mismatched droid that’s made up of all kinds of spare parts just to keep him up and running.

Have they really gotten that across?
Last I heard Ahsoka just had a…feeling about Vader.
That sounds awesome!

@Fitzman73: I don’t know, I would say 3PO is probably kept up and running like you suggest, but those are just coverings right?
It’s clearly not a big deal to gold plate those coverings.
They did it once between ep2 and 3, so it’s not unreasonable to think that once the rebels were able to stop running as much after Jedi and got themselves somewhat safely set up in their own bases and safeworlds at some point they would’ve redipped him just like you’d restore an old car or something.
Given him a proper fixing up.
Since then obviously he’s been beaten around some more, possibly lost his original arm and had it replaced with whatever was handy maybe. 

Ahsoka hasn’t come out and revealed that to anyone that she knows it’s Anakin, but her reactions and subtle comments make it pretty clear that she knows and wants answers.
And Vader explicitly knows she’s out there.
I think he even says when he realizes “So. The padawan lives”. 

ThatScoobyDoom: I know it’s not a big thing, and you are probably right about them restoring him eventually, but I think it’s a nice subtle sign that he has been through some shit.
Just this patchwork droid hobbling around with an assload of colors is a cool visual, me thinks.

Oh shit, son.
That just gave me chills…wow!
Hopefully that shit pops up on YT when it happens.

Okay, so my final question, and I think you’ll have a great answer for this one.
On a very personal level, what does Star Wars mean to you?

@Fitzman73: That’s a good question that I’m not sure I have a real good answer for.

I’m trying to not get overly theatrical about it or over exaggerate it, but really when I think about it, it’s really one of the foundations of my entire development. 

It’s been with me from the time I was 4 years old, it’s been with me longer than my sister for Christ’s sake. 

It’s like another appendage or something.
I’ve had very few years in my life where it wasn’t there in some form or another.
Even during the dark times of like ’85 to ’95 it was present in my life if in nothing more than conversations among friends.

At the same time, I don’t want to come off as some kind of weirdo that all that matters to me is Star Wars.
And everything has to be related to Star Wars.

But honestly, it kinda means happiness.
It means security and safety.
It means friends.
It was one of the things that talk me early on the importance of being good and doing right.

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And there you have it.

Snoke said it in that first trailer, and that’s why I chose that line for the title of this Typecast.
There Has Been An Awakening in fandom and I think we have all felt it.
Some might say Star Wars is just a movie, just a franchise, but obviously it is more.
It means way more to everybody who enjoys it and that is something special.
It truly does bind us.

I want to thank @SpiderScooby, @CheeryAnt, @SteBoost, @ShariSayz, & @Fitzman73 for taking the time to do this.
It was done in a bit of a rush and they all came through for me and I can’t express how much I appreciate it.
If you are on twitter, please go follow all 5 of them.

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And finally.
This world is a very hard place, full of people spewing hateful, shitty bile.
Now more than ever, it is important to combat that in any way you can.
A smile to a random person on a shitty day or just a kind word can help more than you know.

Thank you for reading, hope to see you around here again real soon.

How It Happened: High Art

This should be a quick story.

I took my niece out to the backyard so she could take a dump (my niece is a doggie. We are civilized and don’t shit in the yard…often) and I was just wanting to make a video outside.
I almost took the camera through the blades of grass to reveal a pile of dogshit, but I didn’t wanna get that close to a turd, no matter how funny/shocking I think it would be.

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I coughed and spit up a little phlegm…EUREKA!!!
I whip out my dick phone and start thinking of what to do with phlegm.
Knowing that there are certain folks on this planet that no matter what are always looking for some hidden meaning in everything they read, watch, hear, see, or consume in anyway.
I figured I’d fuck with those people a bit if any of them happen to stumble across the vid.

So I turned on the camera, walked over to the wall, hocked a logie, and now you can watch that here…

https://youtu.be/jWzLDArP3ug

Completely stupid, but I’m sure someday some artsy fartsy jackass will find it a searing look into the human condition and the depth of artistic expressionism as a way of discovering blah blah blah!

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And finally, the world is a tough and shitty place.
Try to change that by putting a little good into it, it needs it now more than ever.